I just don't understand how people can say that mini 2 is fast, IT'S NOT, with ios 8 it has almost as much lag as an iphone 4s.
Not a chance. The A5 is the 4S is a little challenged with iOS 8. The A7 in the Mini 2 is not. If you have one that runs like a 4S, you need to take a look at how you have it set up.
I wouldn't go as far to say the mini 2 is slow, it's just stuttery. It loads things quickly, but UI stutters. A lot. Comparing it to a 4S is actually somewhat reasonable. In some situations. Control Center is smooth on the home screen but that's about it, stutters a bit everywhere else for the most part. The 4S however never runs this smoothly, so there's that. However if you go into Safari, go to a website, tab the URL bar, split the keyboard, and then do anything from here, it's worse than an iPhone 4 on iOS 7.0, 15fps sort of lag.I just don't understand how people can say that mini 2 is fast, IT'S NOT, with ios 8 it has almost as much lag as an iphone 4s.
Not a chance. The A5 is the 4S is a little challenged with iOS 8. The A7 in the Mini 2 is not. If you have one that runs like a 4S, you need to take a look at how you have it set up.
Not a chance. The A5 is the 4S is a little challenged with iOS 8. The A7 in the Mini 2 is not. If you have one that runs like a 4S, you need to take a look at how you have it set up.
I wouldn't go as far to say the mini 2 is slow, it's just stuttery. It loads things quickly, but UI stutters. A lot. Comparing it to a 4S is actually somewhat reasonable. In some situations. Control Center is smooth on the home screen but that's about it, stutters a bit everywhere else for the most part. The 4S however never runs this smoothly, so there's that. However if you go into Safari, go to a website, tab the URL bar, split the keyboard, and then do anything from here, it's worse than an iPhone 4 on iOS 7.0, 15fps sort of lag.
The A7 is challenged by iOS 8 too... Because of the translucency. Plus, it has to run a resolution of 2048x1536 while the 4S only has to run 960x640. Blurring content at a much higher resolution like that will obviously be much much tougher as well. My iPad mini 2 stutters ANYWHERE that involves the keyboard. Problem is doubled if it's a split keyboard. Rotating is also more than often slow and stuttery. The mini 2 definitely doesn't seem unburdened by iOS 8 by any means.
Let me give you some examples that apply for both 4s and mini 2:
-spotlight keyboard lags (on 4s only spotlight keyboard lags but in safari, messages or other apps, the keyboard is smooth. Meanwhile on the mini 2, the keyboard lags everywhere
-safari taps lag
-CC lags
-scrolling lags
-folders lag when opening for the first time
And many other UI glitches. Both devices have been restored and set up as new and the bugs above occur even when the device is empty with no files stored.
I wouldn't go as far to say the mini 2 is slow, it's just stuttery. It loads things quickly, but UI stutters. A lot. Comparing it to a 4S is actually somewhat reasonable. In some situations. Control Center is smooth on the home screen but that's about it, stutters a bit everywhere else for the most part. The 4S however never runs this smoothly, so there's that. However if you go into Safari, go to a website, tab the URL bar, split the keyboard, and then do anything from here, it's worse than an iPhone 4 on iOS 7.0, 15fps sort of lag.
The A7 is challenged by iOS 8 too... Because of the translucency. Plus, it has to run a resolution of 2048x1536 while the 4S only has to run 960x640. Blurring content at a much higher resolution like that will obviously be much much tougher as well. My iPad mini 2 stutters ANYWHERE that involves the keyboard. Problem is doubled if it's a split keyboard. Rotating is also more than often slow and stuttery. The mini 2 definitely doesn't seem unburdened by iOS 8 by any means.
Let me give you some examples that apply for both 4s and mini 2:
-spotlight keyboard lags (on 4s only spotlight keyboard lags but in safari, messages or other apps, the keyboard is smooth. Meanwhile on the mini 2, the keyboard lags everywhere
-safari tabs lag
-CC lags
-scrolling lags
-folders lag when opening for the first time
And many other UI glitches. Both devices have been restored and set up as new and the bugs above occur even when the device is empty with no files stored.
Well put. And yes, the mini 2 has many UI lags that happen the first time, but once you do it again, it's smooth. And I don't understand why the keyboard lags on the mini 2. What makes blurring the keyboard with CC lag more than blurring the dock and apps on the homescreen, or safari tab view, etc? Those two areas are pretty smooth, why isn't the keyboard that way? Also since the introduction of iOS 7, dragging up the control center on the keyboard pressed keys and glitches them up, very irritating. One time the backspace button somehow got glitched by CC and it started backspacing when I wasn't even pressing the key!! It kept going and going and it deleted half a paragraph in my essay I was typing. Luckily there's the "Undo" function.
I do see what he's saying though. It's not unusable by any means but it just feels slower than the iPad air 2. The difference isnt huge but if even I can feel it, it must be there!
We went through all of these complaints with iOS 7, and iOS 8 isn 't meaningfully different. My two iPads, as well as my now-departed iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S, were all on 7.1.2 and were/are all upgraded to 8.0 or higher. None of them ran any worse on iOS 8 than iOS 7. Things like translucency and parallax all caused issues back then and they still do...you can find hundreds of threads complaining about the same issues. There's nothing new here. That's a different issue, but it's not a new problem in iOS 8.
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That's a completely different topic, though. If the iPad Air 2 doesn't run circles around a Mini 2, we have a major problem!![]()
Ehh, not exactly new, I can agree with that, but it's been intensified. Control Center jumps a little bit in any situation now, where it was always very smooth outside of the App Store, folders, keyboard, Lockscreen, just to name a few.We went through all of these complaints with iOS 7, and iOS 8 isn 't meaningfully different. My two iPads, as well as my now-departed iPhone 5 and iPhone 5S, were all on 7.1.2 and were/are all upgraded to 8.0 or higher. None of them ran any worse on iOS 8 than iOS 7. Things like translucency and parallax all caused issues back then and they still do...you can find hundreds of threads complaining about the same issues. There's nothing new here. That's a different issue, but it's not a new problem in iOS 8.
None of the UI glitches I mentioned were present in ios 7.
The A7 is challenged by iOS 8 too... Because of the translucency. Plus, it has to run a resolution of 2048x1536 while the 4S only has to run 960x640. Blurring content at a much higher resolution like that will obviously be much much tougher as well. My iPad mini 2 stutters ANYWHERE that involves the keyboard. Problem is doubled if it's a split keyboard. Rotating is also more than often slow and stuttery. The mini 2 definitely doesn't seem unburdened by iOS 8 by any means.
I wouldn't blame gaussian blur as a reason. No, it's simply terrible coding by Apple. They've gone lazy and iOS 7 (7.1.2) which visually is on par with iOS 8, won't result in stuttering/lag which is downright ridiculous on iOS 8.
This is the first time in years where the primary/lead device, iPhone 6/6Plus, will actually stutter and sometimes lag on the OS it was shipped with. That is nothing short of how evident it is that Apple were seriously sloppy with iOS 8. Call it greed if you will.
Better hope 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 will make a difference.
I just don't understand how people can say that mini 2 is fast, IT'S NOT, with ios 8 it has almost as much lag as an iphone 4s.
I wouldn't blame gaussian blur as a reason. No, it's simply terrible coding by Apple. They've gone lazy and iOS 7 (7.1.2) which visually is on par with iOS 8, won't result in stuttering/lag which is downright ridiculous on iOS 8.
This is the first time in years where the primary/lead device, iPhone 6/6Plus, will actually stutter and sometimes lag on the OS it was shipped with. That is nothing short of how evident it is that Apple were seriously sloppy with iOS 8. Call it greed if you will.
Better hope 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 will make a difference.
I have the Air 2 and the rMini 2. Yes, the Air 2 is slightly faster, but the rMini runs well for me on OS 8. I didn't notice any change in performance when I upgraded. I think the main reason for you to get the rMini 2 however is for portability. If you won't use it away from home or to read with, then I think you are better off staying with your iPad and saving your money. My rMini goes everywhere with me, but I use the Air 2 at home as I much prefer the larger screen real estate.
I don't know. I definitely can feel some lag in the mini 2. I think it came about as a result of iOS 8.
I do see what he's saying though. It's not unusable by any means but it just feels slower than the iPad air 2. The difference isnt huge but if even I can feel it, it must be there!