How to accurately use Nike run club and treadmill

[Jeffruby17]

So this is kind of annoying unless any of you smart people have ideas.

To start off with I have been using Nike run club for 3 years so I try to log all runs there (even to track miles on my sneakers)

Running outside NO problems unless I use the built in Apple Watch app (did yesterday for turkey challenge!). After this run the only way to add to Nike run club is to manually add the run to the Nike app on phone. This adds a double run on my activity (apple) app. If I delete the Nike run from my apple app all should be good - but the apple app still shows in green activity a double run. Annoying.

Now on a treadmill when I use Nike run club on watch the run is 20% shorter than actual. If I edit run in the Nike app it makes two entries in apple app (two Nike runs)- and deleting one of them still registers the double run.

If I run on treadmill and only manually put in Nike run the app still gives me double activity as it senses the hr and motion during the run

Seems only solution for treadmill is to take Watch off during run which defeats whole purpose.

Am I doing something wrong?

 

[ftaok]

Now on a treadmill when I use Nike run club on watch the run is 20% shorter than actual. If I edit run in the Nike app it makes two entries in apple app (two Nike runs)- and deleting one of them still registers the double run.

If I run on treadmill and only manually put in Nike run the app still gives me double activity as it senses the hr and motion during the run

Seems only solution for treadmill is to take Watch off during run which defeats whole purpose.

Am I doing something wrong?

how do you know the treadmill's distance is accurate? I world just use the NRC app and ignore the distance shown on the treadmill

 

[Jeffruby17]

I've been running for many years. I use a different treadmill at gym every day. My time is exactly what my time is on outdoor run. I know how fast I can run a mile.

When I hit the mile marker at around 745, the app has me at .75 miles. No way I'm running a 830+pace. Lol. I think it has to do with long strides.

 

[ftaok]

Well then there's really nothing you can do except to petition Apple/Nike to update their app so you can edit the mileage before saving the run. This is how the Nike+iPod app works on the ipod nano.

I wouldn't hold my breath. They've really took out a lot of the flexibility of these apps. No manual calibration. No use of the footpads.

The only other thing I can think of would be to put the treadmill on a 2 degree incline. Maybe that make you run harder and your armswings would match your outdoor armswing better. Longshot.

 

[3lionsbecks]

I've been running for many years. I use a different treadmill at gym every day. My time is exactly what my time is on outdoor run. I know how fast I can run a mile.

When I hit the mile marker at around 745, the app has me at .75 miles. No way I'm running a 830+pace. Lol. I think it has to do with long strides.

How often have you run on a treadmill? When I was doing my main training for Boston anytime I used a treadmill I could never reach the consistent speeds I could outdoors yet effort levels seemed the same. For some reason I just couldn't go as fast on a treadmill as I could outdoors.

 

[planetf1]

I'm a total amateur but use the treadmill 3 times a week.... The standard activity tracker visually shows a similar difference from the actual machines for me too....

 

[Jeffruby17]

Yup. Today just ran and it was off .09 miles per every mile actually ran.

 

[scriptkitten]

Before I got the AW, back when Nike had a good app, when I would run on a treadmill with my phone on me, it was perfectly accurate. After a 4mi run there would be like .03 difference.

Now with the watch it's a disaster. I'm off anywhere from .25 to .3 per mile. Same speeds same distances. It's accurate outside tho

 

[Jeffruby17]

Anyone try the Apple Watch fitness app on treadmill to see if better? Even if it is I have no way of them putting info into Nike without double counting my exercise. Bummer

 

[scriptkitten]

I've done both to the same effect.

Pp, did you realize you can delete duplicate workouts from the iPhone activity app? It deletes the workout from the activity app/Watch but maintains the health data as long as you choose that option from the dialog box.

That's what I do whenever I decide to use the Apple Watch running app, but later manually enter the run into Nike for my personal record.

 

[Jeffruby17]

Thx!

 

[menace3]

I will say this being a former trainer, treadmills at the gym are a guide and are not perfect. Why? Because regular maintenance is not done until the thing breaks and is non-functioning. Your Apple Watch, fitbit, or whatever you use is basing additional metrics such as age and weight to determine how much you burned. The treadmill calculates for as long as it goes. Sure you can sometimes enter your age and weight, but has the treadmill been oiled to give best resistance and movement? As an avid health nut, the 2 will never match. Trust me. So pick one.

 

[ftaok]

Anyone try the Apple Watch fitness app on treadmill to see if better? Even if it is I have no way of them putting info into Nike without double counting my exercise. Bummer

If you haven't yet done an outdoor run using the Apple Workout app, it won't be calibrated and won't be accurate. You get a message to do a 20 minute run using the Apple Workout app.

I've not done any outdoor runs with the Workout app because I use NRC exclusively. Sounds like you might be in the same situation.

 

[Jeffruby17]

Menace,

Think we are talking about different things. I go to a gym with about 30 treadmills. My time and distances are never off more than 5 seconds. Distance on a treadmill ie- speed should be pretty darn accurate. The Watch based on my movements is off considerably. Outside it works great.

Ftoak- I use Nike exclusively too except on turkey day- I wanted that sticker. Since using the Apple workout app I have noticed my treadmill distances off by much less than before. But still off. Maybe I need a few more outdoor apple runsv

 

[davidj33]

I see this issue hasn't been addressed for some time. I don't believe there has been improvements. I'm older and have been running on treadmills for years. I purchase my series 3 watch when Apple quit supporting the Nike Fitness+ app on my IPod Nano. I have found the distance CONSIDERABLY off on my $400 series 3 watch. 20% seems about the inaccuracy. My Nano would track my run, start my playlist, track my heart rate with a polar strap and allow me to calibrate my distance if needed. So why can't Apple fix this issue? The watch will not even pickup my heart rate even though the health app is functioning as advertised. I really like the function of the NCR app tracking my runs. As far as the watch. The app has inaccurate distance, music doesn't start when the app does and doesn't read my heart rate. How do I get them to bring the Nike Fitness+ app back?

 

[ovalles593]

I see this issue hasn't been addressed for some time. I don't believe there has been improvements. I'm older and have been running on treadmills for years. I purchase my series 3 watch when Apple quit supporting the Nike Fitness+ app on my IPod Nano. I have found the distance CONSIDERABLY off on my $400 series 3 watch. 20% seems about the inaccuracy. My Nano would track my run, start my playlist, track my heart rate with a polar strap and allow me to calibrate my distance if needed. So why can't Apple fix this issue? The watch will not even pickup my heart rate even though the health app is functioning as advertised. I really like the function of the NCR app tracking my runs. As far as the watch. The app has inaccurate distance, music doesn't start when the app does and doesn't read my heart rate. How do I get them to bring the Nike Fitness+ app back?

I normally just used the activity app on my series 2 AW. This week I tried to use the NR app but I found it to be completely off. if I use the app on the watch it shows a distance of .25 off of what the treadmill should. if I started the run on my phone id have to hold the phone in my hand but then the distance started showing that I was running a farther distance then I really had. I'm not sure if buying a arm band to hold my phone would help get a closer calibration.