It’s a tired statement that is no longer even remotely true. I use both and they generally provide the same routes with a few exceptions split between the two.
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The only negative I can see is being able to change the default app for password storage. Looks like apple added that maliciously
so they could later say "I told you so" to the EU.
Re: malware, malware creators have to ( "deposit" 1 million euro) to have 1 million official iOS app store users before being able to be authorized to be in alternative app store.
I agree. To get infected with malware you have to be really stupid AND probably doing something you weren't supposed to be doing anyways.
Right, which is why I didn't say never. I appreciate the links, and that helps bring some perspective. But generally speaking, the numbers that get thrown around in those articles are blown out of proportion and create a lot of FUD. Of course more bad actors are going to get through on the Play Store than the App Store. And it's well known that Android's download/install numbers can be finagled to look much higher than users actually using the apps.
I also do read news about it - and I have yet to see one that had any follow up where it wasn't either 1) addressed / removed, or 2) caused any actual problems with a tangible number of users.
I'm not saying it's not a problem. But I am saying it's not as bad of a problem as Apple likes to make it out. I was replying to the user talking about the security spin, not trying to paint a black and white picture.
If you weren't supposed to be doing it, then why allow it in the first place? Actually, to get infected, you just have to be a non-tech-savvy and trusting person. You can call people stupid if you wish, but the fact is social engineering and confidence scams work because people are genetically wired to trust.
iOS allows us to do a lot of things that nobody should be doing. Why does Apple and Google allow it? Personal freedom I guess.
Which is why it's no more difficult to be scammed on iOS than Android. I occasionally get a weird pop up in safari that looks like it came from iOS directly when typing a website name in incorrectly. I'm savvy enough to know not to click or enter details. Most iOS users probably close it. I'm sure many don't, and then out in their CC numbers are or something else sensitive.
This exact scenario happened to my sister a few years ago, on a fully updated iPhone. She lost four figures.
These days, she refuses to anything financial whatsoever on her iPhone, or any phone. No banking, no shopping, no Apple Pay. I can't blame her.
you mean like switching the default music app from Apple Music to Spotify... like in the article thumbnail image.... why show that if its something you CAN'T do??? Am I missing something?
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Based upon years of passionate certainty in the impending security disasters once the EU law took effect, I would think nearly a year into the added EU freedoms the links to all of the terrible calamities for our EU Apple-using friends would be abundant. In fact, based on the collective take, I would expect the EU to just be a pile of smoldering ash by this point.
And yet, some keep right on slinging how bad all this is for iOS from a security standpoint but no such links to EU examples. It seems that shouldn't even be necessary by this point. Instead, we should all just know from all of the security disasters reported from there. Maybe all the journalists who could report it were destroyed too???
No such story, no such news, no links, no grandmas bank accounts emptied, etc. Where's the "Wolf! Wolf!" so many were so sure were going to gobble up all the poor EU lambs. Where is that devastation?
It's like the year before when so many were so passionately certain that the switch from Lightning to USB-C would result in mounds of broken USB port tongues, expensive 'wobbly' port repairs and the complete extinction of pocket lint (sucked up by the USB-C lint magnet, apparently so much stronger than the Lightning lint magnet). I still find pocket lint. I haven't even seen ONE "broken tongue" story. I invested my life savings times 10 in USB-C repair kiosks that I worried would not be enough to handle the repair volume load.
When do all of those certain failures occur???
The moral of the story: sometimes spin is spun for reasons different than what is actually said. That's why it is spin. In both cases, lots of easy revenue was at stake, so spin might have been spun to try to protect that easy money. Time passes, ramifications of reality set in and we either see the promised doom & destruction or we don't. Nearly a year into it and we don't (see any of it)... 2+ years on that port change.
But there is such a great learning opportunity in this if we will only opt to "think different."
And yet, some keep right on slinging how bad all this is for iOS from a security standpoint but no such links to EU examples. It seems that shouldn't even be necessary by this point. Instead, we should all just know from all of the security disasters reported from there. Maybe all the journalists who could report it were destroyed too???
No such story, no such news, no links, no grandmas bank accounts emptied, etc. Where's the "Wolf! Wolf!" so many were so sure were going to gobble up all the poor EU lambs. Where is that devastation?
It's like the year before when so many were so passionately certain that the switch from Lightning to USB-C would result in mounds of broken USB port tongues, expensive 'wobbly' port repairs and the complete extinction of pocket lint (sucked up by the USB-C lint magnet, apparently so much stronger than the Lightning lint magnet). I still find pocket lint. I haven't even seen ONE "broken tongue" story. I invested my life savings times 10 in USB-C repair kiosks that I worried would not be enough to handle the repair volume load.
When do all of those certain failures occur???The moral of the story: sometimes spin is spun for reasons different than what is actually said. That's why it is spin. In both cases, lots of easy revenue was at stake, so spin might have been spun to try to protect that easy money. Time passes, ramifications of reality set in and we either see the promised doom & destruction or we don't. Nearly a year into it and we don't (see any of it)... 2+ years on that port change.
But there is such a great learning opportunity in this if we will only opt to "think different."
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Let me guess, you live in the US? Apple Maps is literally useless in most of Europe.
Then don't download "resource hogs". Simple as that. Driving a car "isn’t always inherently good" either, but I bet you do it. And I'll bet you learned how to do it safely. The same applies to Apps. So yes, "Open" is always inherently good.
Because it should be "my" decision and not someone else's.
I don't think you understand how the alternative app stores will work.
First, Apple will be vetting alternative app store developers. Before they can offer their apps on an alternative app store, Apple requires that these developers to be a member of the Apple Developer Program for two continuous years or more and must have an app with more than one million first installs on iOS in the European Union in the prior year.
Their apps also will need to be notarized
This is How Notarization Will Work for iOS Apps Distributed Through Alternative App Stores
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Per Apple, the app notarization process "focuses on privacy, security, and maintaining device integrity."
If a bad app gets approved and is found on the alternative app store, then blame Apple... just like when a bad app finds its way onto Apple's own App Store
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Yes, I am aware that this is possible on Android. We discuss it all the time on Android sites. Please stay on topic here, thank you.
Because it's your hardware and you should be able to do what you want with it, without daddy telling you what you can and can't do.
You're technically correct - though you're also wrong here.
This was a preemptive strike from Apple for the US Market. Had Trump not won the election, the beat down on Apple was imminent. Do not act as if Apple did this because it was what was best for customers. They knew that after the Government was doen with Google, they were next up to bat.
If you want to get specific, they were also at risk of having their services business (their cash cow) attacked. Apple Music, PodCasts, Books... etc. It wasn't just pushing people to their own apps, but also App store practices charging fees above and beyond the margins competitors make on their platforms. Their first attempt to stave off goverment interference in the US was to knock those fees from 30% to 10% for "some" companies, but not all. This duality of issues is what spanked Google and may see Android and Chrome forced to be spun off independtently.
Also a huge risk for Apple and the achilles heel of any defense is that Macs have a polar opposite model. You cannot argue that one product line relies on sleezy tactics to thrive when your other which is just a device in a different form factor but ultumatley both computing devices, can be fully open and still make crap loads of cash and profit.
The blinders Apple devout put on is really not surprising considering half the country just put a mad man back in power, but it's disturbing as a human condition that people worship companies and prominient figures to the degree of mass group delusional behavior.
So, why make it easier through the introduction of trojans and other spyware?
Agree. I’m confused why macrumors used an image for this article that shows you changing the default music app…?
That's irrelevant to the point the person was making about stupid people misusing a product. There are many examples of manufacturers, either voluntarily or under government order, creating products that minimize misuse and protect the user from financial or physical harm. In the case of Apple, there appears to be a double standard being applied.
If it is your hardware and want to do with it as you please, bring your own software. Jailbreak it and do whatever you want. Don't require Apple to put cracks it.
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Do you use Google maps?
I have android auto in my car and it is great at doing almost anything via voice controls, and of course it opens all navigation requests in google maps by default. It's what basically keeps me on Android.
Haven't tried Apple Carplay, so nervous about a switch.