How to charge shuffle?

jer446

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I am going away this summer, cross country and need to buy an ipod. I really dont listen to much music, but i am going to be on a bus a lot so i need something. I was just going to get a shuffle because its nice and cheap, only 100 bucks, but i just realised how am i going to charge it? Doesnt it only charge through usb>? I wont be near a computer barely at all this summer, so i might need to go ipod mini.
 

DXoverDY

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jer446 said:
I am going away this summer, cross country and need to buy an ipod. I really dont listen to much music, but i am going to be on a bus a lot so i need something. I was just going to get a shuffle because its nice and cheap, only 100 bucks, but i just realised how am i going to charge it? Doesnt it only charge through usb>? I wont be near a computer barely at all this summer, so i might need to go ipod mini.
you need to get the usb power adapter...

http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/accessories.html
 

jsw

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You can get a battery pack and/or a charger, but perhaps the mini would be better for you - the screen and extended battery life might come in handy.
 

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jer446

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wow for that price i might as well by the mini i think, for 179 with edu discount.
 

DXoverDY

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jer446 said:
wow for that price i might as well by the mini i think, for 179 with edu discount.
maybe. who knows. depending on the number of songs you wanna carry the mini might be a better option as well.
 

jsw

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jer446 said:
wow for that price i might as well by the mini i think, for 179 with edu discount.
Yeah, it's not all that much more than even the 512MB Shuffle once you add the charger. One thing: the Shuffles are vastly more abuse-tolerant - you can drop them, hit them, etc. with little or no lasting effect, unlike a disk-based iPod.
 

sk8erboy

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hmm.. well i would go with the mini for sure. its better priced for the amount of gigs you get.

however, if you decided that you want to run with your mp3 player, the shuffle would be a better option because its is a flash drive. im not sure if you understand this lingo... but if you run with a mini, which is hard drive, than you will be waring down the hard drive.. in perhaps in a matter of months it will not work. Running causes vibrations on the hard drive.. which eventually end up breaking itself [ HD.]

srry for the confusion.... there are pro's and con's for both.. but i would go with the mini... GREEN of course. :D just be careful when you run.. get an arm band.. hopefully that will help
 

asif786

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sometimes we have to look beyond price when looking at these things though..

i.e. if you're planing on doing any long-distance walks, or hiking or anything like that, a shuffle will better suit you. jsw is right in saying the shuffle is very abuse tolerant. i ran over mine with a bmw 7 series car tyre this morning just to see how it held up..and it was fine!

whatever apple say, you definitely will get much better charge with a shuffle, and it will hold it's charge longer.

just some points for you to consider :)
 

jer446

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i have to do the pros and cons of both, i was hoping i could trade some stuff for someones shuffle or mini, but no one yet. So i will keep looking.
 

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asif786 said:
sometimes we have to look beyond price when looking at these things though..

i.e. if you're planing on doing any long-distance walks, or hiking or anything like that, a shuffle will better suit you. jsw is right in saying the shuffle is very abuse tolerant. i ran over mine with a bmw 7 series car tyre this morning just to see how it held up..and it was fine!

whatever apple say, you definitely will get much better charge with a shuffle, and it will hold it's charge longer.

just some points for you to consider :)
Apple's products not only well designed, but very strong! =P
 

Advance The Man

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So you purposely ran over the Shuffle? I would really like to see that! Heck, I'm sure Apple would like a photo of that. It could be part of their marketing for the Shuffle's durability. Please, provide pixs!

asif786 said:
sometimes we have to look beyond price when looking at these things though..

i.e. if you're planing on doing any long-distance walks, or hiking or anything like that, a shuffle will better suit you. jsw is right in saying the shuffle is very abuse tolerant. i ran over mine with a bmw 7 series car tyre this morning just to see how it held up..and it was fine!

whatever apple say, you definitely will get much better charge with a shuffle, and it will hold it's charge longer.

just some points for you to consider :)
 

asif786

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Advance The Man said:
So you purposely ran over the Shuffle? I would really like to see that! Heck, I'm sure Apple would like a photo of that. It could be part of their marketing for the Shuffle's durability. Please, provide pixs!
i didnt take any pics at the time (i was just trying to tell someone that their creative zen was a waste of time, so i thought i would show off a bit too ;))

i'll do it again tonight/tomorrow though, and post the pics ;)
 

slooksterPSV

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asif786 said:
i didnt take any pics at the time (i was just trying to tell someone that their creative zen was a waste of time, so i thought i would show off a bit too ;))

i'll do it again tonight/tomorrow though, and post the pics ;)
Now watch, you'll run over it again and bust it.
 

tech4all

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asif786 said:
i didnt take any pics at the time (i was just trying to tell someone that their creative zen was a waste of time, so i thought i would show off a bit too ;))

i'll do it again tonight/tomorrow though, and post the pics ;)
You should have ran over the Creative Zen as well to show them which one was more durable :D
 

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tech4all said:
You should have ran over the Creative Zen as well to show them which one was more durable :D
He should have run over the Zen just to get rid of it :D
I want to see those pics as well
 

JoeKarame

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I've been on a steady downgrade with my iPods...Started off with a 'chunky' 2nd Gen 10gb one, then moved to a 1st generation mini. Have to say I was really quite shocked with the battery life of it at the time. But I sold that off on eBay (amusingly enough for me, at the same price a new one would have cost - the buyer won the bid just as the new versions came out...I felt guilty for a couple of minutes only ;) ).

Now I just have a 512k Shuffle - and I've loved every minute with it. It does everything I need it to do, has a decent battery life, and is lovely and light!

And it might just be me, but I honestly find the sound quality on it to be slightly better than on my old mini.

But the good thing now is that you could buy any of the range, and be happy with the choice. There's honestly not a poor one in the bunch as far as I'm concerned :)
 

javiercr

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jer446 said:
wow for that price i might as well by the mini i think, for 179 with edu discount.
the new ipod mini doesn't come with the usb ac adapter either, so you have to get that for the mini too
 

James Philp

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javiercr said:
the new ipod mini doesn't come with the usb ac adapter either, so you have to get that for the mini too
That was going to be my point too.
Everyone was well impressed at the price drop of the 1-2G iPod Minis. What they failed to realize was that the majority of this drop was due to no power adaptor and only the USB cable, which (at apple prices) comes to $48. So if you wanted to buy a Mini 2G with all the things you got with the Mini 1G (4GB) it would cost you $247. I cant remember the original $ price though. (I got one for £180 in the UK)

This exact same thing has happened across the iPod range.
 

jer446

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wait! please elaborate? How do i charge my ipod mini? Isnt there the same thing that comes with the ipod, like it plugs into the wall outlet?!
 

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jer446 said:
wait! please elaborate? How do i charge my ipod mini? Isnt there the same thing that comes with the ipod, like it plugs into the wall outlet?!
As James Philp and javiercr noted, the 2nd generation iPod mini's don't come with AC adapters. Apple got rid of these to lower prices with the update. The only iPods that include the power brick are the original, the U2, and the Photo.

Personally, I would go with the shuffle for running... I've been wanting to get one since they came out, but I just can't justify buying another iPod.

reality
 

jer446

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well im going to be going away for 5 weeks, and although i really want a shuffle, i am going to need a screen. The mini should be fine for just walking and listening to it on a bus right? I might take it on a hike, but i wont be running.
 

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jer446 said:
well im going to be going away for 5 weeks, and although i really want a shuffle, i am going to need a screen. The mini should be fine for just walking and listening to it on a bus right? I might take it on a hike, but i wont be running.
Yeah you'll be fine, but make sure you get a USB power adaptor.

JoeKarame said:
Now I just have a 512k Shuffle - and I've loved every minute with it. It does everything I need it to do, has a decent battery life, and is lovely and light!

512k!! :eek: What bitrate do you encode at to get songs onto it?

;)
 

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jer446 said:
well im going to be going away for 5 weeks, and although i really want a shuffle, i am going to need a screen. The mini should be fine for just walking and listening to it on a bus right? I might take it on a hike, but i wont be running.
Remember, the Shuffle got its name because that's the only thing it does, Shuffle. So, you're at the mercy of the algorhythms that Apple created to randomly shuffle the songs. Are you sure you want that little control over your music for 5 weeks?
 

tombo

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Ugg said:
Remember, the Shuffle got its name because that's the only thing it does, Shuffle. So, you're at the mercy of the algorhythms that Apple created to randomly shuffle the songs. Are you sure you want that little control over your music for 5 weeks?
IIRC you can choose whether to listen to your tracks in Shuffle mode or just 'straight'.

It's similar to a playlist: you put tracks on in the order that you want to listen to them in. You can drag and drop like you would any playlist you create in iTunes.

Your choice to use the random 'algorithm' or not:
Shuffle switch piccie