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But as someone said before, maybe he lives on a place where "summer jobs" aren't a common thing. For example, I'm peruvian, and people around here get their first jobs at around 18-22. Some wait till they finished college to start looking for a job.

There are exceptions, obviously. I started working on web design when I was 15 (and haven't stopped since, 7 years now), but mostly because I hate to be given things freely, I like getting things on my own :p .

I'd advise him to try to show his dad $1300ish is a really good price for the type of equipment he would be buying. Sure, there could be $600 laptops somewhere, but they won't give him the same amount of satisfaction as a Macbook could.

Try helping more at home, using your savings, show him you are responsible and it's and intelligent buy, not just some wild desire.
 
Take your dad to an Apple store just to look around, find out the retail price, then find a better refurb price, then offer to make up the difference between the PC laptop he's looking at and the macbook through a job, barter, allowance, loan, etc.

Also mention that macs are immune from viruses, spyware, weird driver conflicts, etc. He probably has a friend who had to junk his computer because of one of these. Remember a bargain computer is no bargain if it doesn't work. What if you have a report due tomorrow and you get a crash today that makes you reinstall everything.

In the end though, its your dad's money and if he wants to buy you a Kaypro 2, then that's what you're going to end up with. (If you're too young to know what that is, ask my grandfather, he still has one in the basement.)
 
Ok my family is from Mexico, and I got to say that country its more on Class issue that is a reason why Teens/kids don't have a job during summer. I would see the upper class kids would not work till in early 20s. Unlike lower income kids, would go to supermarkets and work for few hours doing grocery bags and little odd jobs to get paid at the end of day. I just have to say my point because someone mention Latin America they generally dont work till 18-21, is not entirely correct. Situations are all based on class, race, gender.

I want to know where are you from that you cant get a summer job.
 
Ok my family is from Mexico, and I got to say that country its more on Class issue that is a reason why Teens/kids don't have a job during summer. I would see the upper class kids would not work till in early 20s. Unlike lower income kids, would go to supermarkets and work for few hours doing grocery bags and little odd jobs to get paid at the end of day. I just have to say my point because someone mention Latin America they generally dont work till 18-21, is not entirely correct. Situations are all based on class, race, gender.

I want to know where are you from that you cant get a summer job.
theres a place called lazyville where the adolescents and teens don't work.
 
There are "upper class" jobs too. One of my rich friends in high school first worked at Marriott, but her dad didn't even want her working there even though it was definitely upscale, so she became a web/graphic designer and did logos and flyers for small businesses working out of her home. Another friend of mine in a similar situation became a math & english tutor for other kids from rich families.

You get the idea. Hauling bricks or fixing lawnmowers or making hamburgers sitting kids might be seen as lower class (although they're obviously necessary for society), but your parents will be happy if you can make money using your brain, skills, etc, and you'd probably prefer it too.
 
Ok my family is from Mexico, and I got to say that country its more on Class issue that is a reason why Teens/kids don't have a job during summer. I would see the upper class kids would not work till in early 20s. Unlike lower income kids, would go to supermarkets and work for few hours doing grocery bags and little odd jobs to get paid at the end of day. I just have to say my point because someone mention Latin America they generally dont work till 18-21, is not entirely correct. Situations are all based on class, race, gender.

I want to know where are you from that you cant get a summer job.

sorry, I think we a have a slight misunderstanding, I said from spanish-speaking countries as a whole, at least that is what my spanish 1 book told me : P : ) and I believe they meant like a job-job, like a job at the grocery store, not like a quick mow your lawn/water your flowers type of deal. I would have to agree though, that those with a higher status (more well off) are more likely to not get jobs until a later age.
 
ask him to pay about 25% of it and work save up the rest. save up christmas, birthday, work money and buy yourself the computer. thats what i did. you'll feel good once you get your new toy knowing you worked for it.
 
Thanks for the help guys. I'll try them out and hopefully I can get a macbook. Actually the problem where I live is that kids don't get things like summer jobs. I might try out the refurbished macbook idea, sounds like a good one, the discount might help.
Who cares what other kids do. Sounds like you're surrounded by kids who will go no where with their lives until they can learn the value of a dollar. With that said, good luck trying to get your mac.
 
Don't beg daddy to buy you a new toy. I'm astonished he is willing to buy you a computer in the first place. Let him buy you a PC, sell it and buy a Mac if you want one so badly, but geezus, don't be ungreatful.
 
Ask him how much will be pay for the PC...then ask can you just take that, add some to that to reach the MacBook price...or get a refub from Apple.
 
Here's how to convince your dad about a MacBook

1. They are time savers. You don't need to wait for antivirus to run each day. This equals more time doing work. (But, makesure you get the grades to back it up)
2. Things just work.
3. If you already know what school you are going to in the fall, contact their computer store, ask if they are an apple campus reseller, if so, ask if they will put you on their "Deals" listserv. If they ask why, tell them you want to get a good deal on a future break in price. Alot of times, when new models come out, the old models that were in stock get discounted.
4. Finally, tell your dad that you just want to be able to be more productive with the time that you have. Have him look at the features of the new operating system, Leopard, that is coming out. This will help him with the decision.

Good Luck! Oh, and get a little but of a summer job, like offering to do chores around the house in exchange for money towards a new computer.
 
Stop asking for handouts from your parents who have already paid out countless dollars to raise you and get a job, save and buy your own laptop.
 
Ask him how much will be pay for the PC...then ask can you just take that, add some to that to reach the MacBook price...or get a refub from Apple.

I agree with the doctor's prescription!!
coz then he has no excuses not to give you the money.
 
I have to go along with what others have said, but with a slightly different twist. Ask him to partner with you; do a funds matching deal. Every dollar you earn, he contributes a dollar. With a student discount, that should not be a difficult amount of money for you to raise.

I found this a surprisingly effective method to convince your parents to help pay for things. While I've never asked my parents to help pay for anything large other than tuition (I've been working at least 20 hours a week since I was 14 and now at 18 am working 40--and looking for another part-time job to supplement income in order to pay for tuition and living costs while going to school...yikes), my girlfriend and her mom have used this dollar-matching deal with her laptop and several other somewhat major purchases. I think your parents will be a little less reluctant to spend a bunch of money on something if you are willing to put your own time and effort towards it rather than just relying solely on them.

Also, echoing what others have said: look for a summer or part-time job--even in places where such things are not commonplace, there is always delivering flyers, washing dishes, doing odd jobs at any number of employers--and check out the Apple Store for Higher Education on the Apple website. The discount there is pretty substantial and may knock a couple hundred bucks off the price of a Mac laptop.

Good luck!
 
Stop asking for handouts from your parents who have already paid out countless dollars to raise you and get a job, save and buy your own laptop.

again people aren't listening. in some areas jobs that would've been teen jobs in the past are now being taken by older people who r looking for work because their fixed income is gone because of the economy's downturn
 
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