How to Include Sent Mail in Threads

Discussion in 'iOS 8' started by dukee101, Sep 17, 2014.

  1. dukee101 macrumors member


    Jan 17, 2009
    Since iOS 5, there's been an option for Mail to "Organize By Thread". However, threads don't include sent mail, just received. Has anything changed in iOS 8 to allow sent mail to be grouped within threads? Is this a problem only with Gmail accounts or do iCloud Mail accounts (or any other account type) exhibit this too?

    Doesn't anyone else find this jarring? I'm always scrolling down into the quoted part to see what I sent, or worse, having to back out into the Sent folder if the quoted part is redacted for whatever reason. Gmail groups all conversations the way they're supposed to be: back-and-forth. It's 2014 and Apple Mail on iOS still doesn't do this?? Seriously?
  2. dcorban macrumors 6502a


    Oct 29, 2007
    I feel your pain. Yes, it is the same with iCloud email accounts.
  3. bomsom macrumors member

    Jul 27, 2010
    Plus 1 for this. It's unbelievable that don't have this.
    I've been trying to find a replacement that works with IMAP accounts but didn't succeed so far.

    Mailbox seems like a good alternative, but only works with iCloud or gmail account.

    I tried Cloud Magic but it doesn't have this feature either.

    Still looking.
  4. liteshow macrumors regular

    Sep 20, 2012
    Try the latest version of cloudmagic for difffernt email providers.

    If you are using gmail, nothing beats the Gmail app.
  5. dukee101 thread starter macrumors member


    Jan 17, 2009
    I disagree. I think with iOS 8, the default works perfectly except for this Sent mail flaw. The new swipe gestures for Archive/Trash are really good and I like it's integration into the OS.

    The Gmail app offers Push but the cost to battery life doesn't justify enabling that in my opinion (I've set to 1 hour fetches, and if I'm expecting something, I open the app and force a fetch any way).
  6. liteshow macrumors regular

    Sep 20, 2012
    Hmmm, I am not sure why you would think gmail app would be a battery hog? I have been running gmail app for about a year and a half without battery drain issues. Now with battery usage in ios8, you can tell which app is battery hungry. Right now I have:

    Usage: 3 hours 58 mins
    Standby: 13 hours 3 mins
    56% battery
    Gmail app usage: 1%
  7. dukee101 thread starter macrumors member


    Jan 17, 2009
    Apologies, I should have clarified: Push is only a battery hog if you're being pushed a lot of emails. You may have Push enabled with the Gmail app and yet receive only 1 email a day and have no noticeable impact on battery life. It really depends on the user. I know that in my own case, switching from 15 minute fetch to 1 hour has already resulted in a *significant* battery life boost, so I can only imagine how much worse Push would be for my battery life.
  8. liteshow macrumors regular

    Sep 20, 2012
    You are correct. It does depend on how many emails one receives. I average about < 10 email notifications a day. To keep my numbers down, I have also filtered my emails so that non-important ones skip the inbox and I only get push notifications on the important ones.

    I would suggest you give push email a try now since ios 8 allows you to monitor battery usage.
  9. dukee101 thread starter macrumors member


    Jan 17, 2009
    I've done the exact same: important emails to Inbox, the rest skip and get filed under an unimportant label.

    I've been trying to be an "app minimalist" this past year and really want to keep installed apps to a minimum, so I didn't mind the push-fetch trade-off (nor the Sent mail grouping flaw) with the default mail app, but maybe I'll give Gmail a try again.

    The downsides are:
    -no "All Inboxes" view aggregating messages from all accounts
    -third-party apps only send mail through the default Apple
    -iOS Share feature doesn't recognize the Gmail app
  10. sevoman macrumors member


    Jan 23, 2016
    Ancient Egypt
    Outlook for iOS. The perfect mail app... FULL threaded messages shows sent and replied. Also has two swipe options... left swipe one thing and right swipe another thing. The iOS Gmail app only allows for one action regardless of which way you swipe. I have tried them all and Outlook is the best. It also syncs mail accounts for all services not just Gmail (Outlook, Gmail, Yahoo, Aol, iCloud, etc etc). The perfect solution.
  11. C DM macrumors Sandy Bridge

    Oct 17, 2011
    It's basically a difference between thread view and conversation view--some clients support one or the other, some neither.

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