How to learn with iPhone ? Flashcards?

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  1. MyMcMac macrumors member

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    Are there flashcards programs or plans from developers to write this kind of applications for iPhone via Developer Tools?
     
  2. JayLenochiniMac macrumors G5

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    I'm sure some developer will write one, given there is iStudy. It'll be nice to have as my stack of flashcards is ten times thicker than the iPhone.
     
  3. JMax1 macrumors 6502

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    What I do is spend a little time making an image or PDF for each card, importing them into iPhoto and then sync up to the iPhone. That way I can flip through them very easiy.
     
  4. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Yes. I've seen one that could easily port to the iPhone, and think they were making plans to bring it to the iPhone. Will try and find the name.
     
  5. Vegeta-san macrumors 6502

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    I currently use http://iflipr.com/ for flashcards on the iPhone. The interface is great and the community is lively. Hope you like it...
     
  6. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Hope these are of help.
    Basically, I haven't seen much come through specifically for the iPhone, but it's only a matter of time.
    Possbiel programs that will port
    http://www.maccoremac.com/
    Mental Case flash card application
    http://www.supermemo.com/english/news.htm 98 version good

    General Wired article
    http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/magazine/16-05/ff_wozniak?currentPage=all

    http://www.mnemosyne-proj.org/index.php

    http://ichi2.net/anki/
    http://www.opencards.info/

    I've emailed mental case designers to see if they're porting over. In the meantime,
    http://feeds.macosxhints.com/~r/macosxhints/recent/~3/206566091/article.php
     
  7. techlover828 macrumors 68020

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    I can't wait for the sdk in june, there's going to be so many great apps like this and the iphones/ipod touches will be amazing little devises (not that it already isn't)
     
  8. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    iFlash will be coming to the iPhone/touch
     
  9. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Is the spaced repetition of the loopware app using something clever enough as supermemo's algorithm, or is it a fixed time period?
     
  10. xUKHCx Administrator emeritus

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    I don't know what you are talking about.
     
  11. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    This is what i'm talking about ;)

     
  12. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Drew McCormack MacCoreMac Software
    wrote back

    > Ah
    > cool, basically i was asking as it came up on a macrumors.com iPhone thread.
    > Is there any intention to do a supermemo style algorithm based timing interval ?
    > I really should look at your website, but asking directly can be useful too :)
    >


    Hi,
    MC already does basic supermemo style algorithms. The main page has a box called 'The Science of Mental Case' which explains it in a little more detail.
    Kind regards,
    Drew
     
  13. joecode macrumors newbie

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    iFlipr's algorithm

    Creator of iFlipr here. Of course I'm a bit biased, but I think iFlipr's learning algorithm at least rivals that of supermemo. If you have any suggestions for how to make it better, please let me know.

    Joe
     
  14. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    1) Use the right font on the website - as per the guidelines Apple gives - You've specifically mocked up a horizontal iPhone on the front page. However, the first thing that caught my eye was the jarring use of the wrong font.

    Arial vs helvetica.
    2) The background is white - again, it's going against guidelines. I know it's only a mock-up, but your trying to show what the product looks like... (unless your product truly does have a white background, in which case i'd refer you to guidelines more vehemently :) )

    3) Fugly black right arrow. Seriously ugly.
    4) Why the underlinedness of the Card Mastery, Settings and Deck Mastery?
    Why even have the hyper link there? They all link to the same thing. Doesn't make sense.
    Same again with the more normal left and right arrow - you're on the main page. So why include 2 hyperlinks to the page you're already on? Irrelevant for the main page.

    5)The login page looks wrong, when viewed on a PC with Firefox 3 - or basically I imagine anything other than an iPhone. Plus there's no page as to how to get a login in the first place. ISn't there a way of checking what browser is being used i.e. iPhone vs normal desktop and giving them a website experience suitable for these?
    6) I would have thought you'd want the youtube video on the front page. For the non-iPhone website at least.

    Sorry if this comes across as harsh - I only want to help :)


    PS - Use screenflow, and the iPhone simulator - will probably give you a much better video for youtube.

    PPS - Why have the interface cluttered with the words deck mastery or word mastery? because you're going to learn what they mean a lot - why not have those words only showing when you click on the actual 2 different numbers? It'd make the interface a lot simpler and less cluttered.
     
  15. extraextra macrumors 68000

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    Is it possible to categorize flashcards into subgroups? Like I want a French deck, but in the French deck I want a group for fruits, clothing, numbers, etc. I haven';t had a chance to scour around the site properly so sorry if this is available and I missed it!
     
  16. joecode macrumors newbie

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    thanks for the good points, here's my thoughts

    Thanks for the feedback. Its the best kind: the tough kind. :)

    Yea, I'll check out them guidelines. I have a tendency not to pay much heed to rules and guidelines. Also bad habit of being so set on function I forget design: severe case of programmer's bias.

    Thanks for reminding me. It is probably the worst design sin of iFlipr. That'll be the first thing to go come this Monday.


    On all the browsers I've tested, the Card Master and Deck Mastery each just put up alerts to tell you what they are (which looks a bit nicer on the real iPhone). The two regular arrows are just there to be somewhat true to the actual iPhone safari layout. With fullscreen safari coming out, I can just make the whole matter moot by removing it altogether.

    Yep. Totally agree. I have only barely begun making separate pages for iPhone versus regular browsers. With eyes as sensitive as yours, you're lucky not to have seen the landing page when I first built it---you'd have gouged them out, I'm afraid.

    I've tested a little with both on the front page. My vague estimate was that the simulator on the front page performed better in terms of less bounces. But that is probably related to the still relatively poor quality of the video. I better make a really good quality video and do some A/B testing pretty soon.

    Only problem with using the simulator for the video is that you don't see a finger and so the clicking looks a bit different, but there might be a way around this: a crystal clean video would be really nice.

    Seems reasonable to me, as long as the numbers are discoverable. Or maybe just put a small question mark near the numbers, which is at least pretty standard.

    Thanks again and best,
    Joe
     
  17. joecode macrumors newbie

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    categories

    Maybe the simplest way to get the kind of categorization you want is to make separate decks and then combine them into bigger decks. That means of course that I need to make it easy to combine decks, or perhaps mix and match cards from different decks at will. This is a feature that's been in the queue for a little while now. It just got its priority increased ;)

    -Joe
     
  18. extraextra macrumors 68000

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    Alright, that sounds great! I'll look forward to using iFlipr on my new iPhone. :D
     
  19. mooney47 macrumors newbie

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    iPhone flashcards

    If anyone has a chance, please take a look at http://iphone.prettydarnsmart.com and tell me what you think.

    When I was looking for flashcard programs in the past, I wasn't satisfied with what I found. I tried to implement a simple, ajax/ruby on rails, pseudo-leitner system.

    The original site is http://prettydarnsmart.com, but I haven't finished moving all the functionality to the iphone site.
     
  20. shinenjk macrumors regular

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    Is iFlipr worth it for $9.99? Seems kinda pricey for such a simple app. $4.99 would've sufficed IMO.
     
  21. joecode macrumors newbie

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    worth it?

    I'm the author of iFlipr. I think it may or may not be worth it depending on your needs. There will be a Lite version coming out soon, so folks can try out a limited version before spending anything on the full version. Of course, I'm always looking to improve iFlipr, and so should you find it lacking in any particular respect, please do let me know.

    Joe
     
  22. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Will check out the app - just to say thanks for taking the suggestions on board - taht kind of feedback interaction really helps get people involved and linked to an app, and if you can broadcast the conversations, it means people not directly involved in teh conversations can see that you're visibly working on improvements - it's a rgeat thing to show.
     
  23. t0mat0 macrumors 603

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    Just a quick update:
    http://www.whatsoniphone.com/blogs/iphone-app-review-case-mental-case

    Linking in with Flashcard Exchange.com is great!

    Drew is also at http://www.macresearch.org/cocoa_for_scientists
    blog is http://www.macanics.net/
    (Drew worked with his brother, Cody McCormack, and also Marcello Luppi that I know of in their team (Marcello did the design work, inc. icons and web site - he's available for work afaik from Drew's twitter status recently.)

    Looks an impressive app. Anyone used flash based apps for their iPhone yet?
     
  24. MST macrumors 6502

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    I am glad that I found this thread, I posted something similar quite recently asking if there were any apps like this available but because I used the term cuecards as opposed to flashcards I didn't get much of a response, or it could just be that people couldn't be bothered.

    Anyway, I've just downloaded Wet Leaf's Study Aid from the App Store, I was torn between that and iFlip [as mentioned in this thread] but Study Aid won out due to sheer simplicity and the fact that it's got a higher rating from the reviews it has received.

    So far so good...
     
  25. giku macrumors newbie

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    learning...

    I use mental case and memoreasy. The second one is great, when you don't have much time or like working with voice only. iFlipr .. don't like their UI.
     

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