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Hi everyone,

I have an iMac at home and I use an iPhone, but I have a question. How can I update my iPhone via my iMac in the most stable and trouble-free way without deleting my data? I've heard that updating via phone isn't a reliable method, is that true?
 
Your iPhone can update OTA (over-the-air) just fine without any issues. You don't need a Mac to own an iPhone. Most of the world still uses Windows and many of those still use iPhones every single day with zero update concerns. Adding a Mac to the mix means you doubled the possible issues since now you could have two devices that could be at fault instead of just one. The more complicated you make updating, the more likely you will end up with a headache at one point or another.

Back up your data to iCloud and stay away from betas if you have data loss concerns. And if you want to be extra careful (paranoid?), just don't update on day 1 of an update's release--there have been a couple cases of updates being pulled, but it is very uncommon.
 
Your iPhone can update OTA (over-the-air) just fine without any issues. You don't need a Mac to own an iPhone. Most of the world still uses Windows and many of those still use iPhones every single day with zero update concerns. Adding a Mac to the mix means you doubled the possible issues since now you could have two devices that could be at fault instead of just one. The more complicated you make updating, the more likely you will end up with a headache at one point or another.

Back up your data to iCloud and stay away from betas if you have data loss concerns. And if you want to be extra careful (paranoid?), just don't update on day 1 of an update's release--there have been a couple cases of updates being pulled, but it is very uncommon.
Would updating through Finder be completely sufficient? I'm a bit picky about this.
 
The Update Process, regardless of how you do it, will consist of the iOS/iPadOS files/package being downloaded and then applied. So, either downloading the .ipsw file and moving forward on macOS or Windows SHOULD be the same, as the file would be the same. Updating OTA still downloads the same files, but sometimes does so like how a "delta" update would as opposed to downloading the entire file. Some updates OTA DO download the entire file, usually on the main upgrades and then corresponding "point" updates like the upcoming 26"point"2 update.

If you're wanting to be "sure" about things and you're using an iMac, it'd be done from within the Finder app. You can either then download the .ipsw file manually from Apple and then press Option + 'Check for Update' and then browse to that downloaded file, or you can simply press the Update option in Finder and let Finder download that same .ipsw file (to a buried temp folder).

If you're following along, there is an Apple Devices app for Windows, too, but ... yeah. That's mainly hit or miss, and I'm sure that has nothing to do with the iDevice or .ipsw file, and more of how crappy Windows has become when using Apple devices...
 
The Update Process, regardless of how you do it, will consist of the iOS/iPadOS files/package being downloaded and then applied. So, either downloading the .ipsw file and moving forward on macOS or Windows SHOULD be the same, as the file would be the same. Updating OTA still downloads the same files, but sometimes does so like how a "delta" update would as opposed to downloading the entire file. Some updates OTA DO download the entire file, usually on the main upgrades and then corresponding "point" updates like the upcoming 26"point"2 update.

If you're wanting to be "sure" about things and you're using an iMac, it'd be done from within the Finder app. You can either then download the .ipsw file manually from Apple and then press Option + 'Check for Update' and then browse to that downloaded file, or you can simply press the Update option in Finder and let Finder download that same .ipsw file (to a buried temp folder).

If you're following along, there is an Apple Devices app for Windows, too, but ... yeah. That's mainly hit or miss, and I'm sure that has nothing to do with the iDevice or .ipsw file, and more of how crappy Windows has become when using Apple devices...
Is it possible to perform a clean install, a DFU restore to the latest iOS version, using a Windows machine? How? I’ve always done it through my Mac, but I think soon I’m gonna need to do it using a Windows 10 or 11 PC. Should I install iTunes on the Windows PC?
 
Is it possible to perform a clean install, a DFU restore to the latest iOS version, using a Windows machine? How? I’ve always done it through my Mac, but I think soon I’m gonna need to do it using a Windows 10 or 11 PC. Should I install iTunes on the Windows PC?
The MS App Apple Devices is supposed to be the way now.
 
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Hi everyone,

I have an iMac at home and I use an iPhone, but I have a question. How can I update my iPhone via my iMac in the most stable and trouble-free way without deleting my data? I've heard that updating via phone isn't a reliable method, is that true?

The process is different but the end results are identical. Part of the update process is verifying this bit for bit parity.

If you just prefer using a Mac all you do is open finder and press 'check for updates', then update iPhone. You won't lose any of your data regardless of how you update. However that said, make sure you have a back up prior to updating regardless of how you do it.
 
I finally used the Apple Devices app on the Windows machine. It worked great!

Last five years, I have exclusively used OTA. Never had an issue.

Good for you, but if anything goes rogue or wrong, the protocol to fix it is always a deep clean install. There are already posts on this forum about the upgrade from iOS 18 to 26 going not so well, so in case of doubt, I always perform a clean install using the IPWS file, something that has always given me good results.
 
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Concur with the consensus: OTA updates are reliable the vast majority of the time. Using a computer as part of the update process is the backup plan, these days -- not the primary method. If you have concerns about losing data, simply backup your data to either iCloud or your Mac before triggering any major updates. (I'm admittedly old-school in this regard... I still perform my backups to my iMac.)
 
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Old habits are hard to break, so I'm still in the minority who still connects their devices to my Mac regularly, for backups and updates.

For Mac updates, the legacy of delta vs. full installer packages did bring benefits in the past, but has become more difficult as Apple has changed the processes, hidden full installers, and pushed users to OTA updates.

iDevices started from a place even farther down that path, but at least Apple still officially supports computer-based device updates, even as far back as Mojave using iTunes with the latest iPhone 17 series. iTunes will ask to download a newer mobile device support library, which catches many off guard as it occurs outside the usual update channels, but the process works.

The only minor sign that it's not something they embrace are the outdated device gliphs that haven't been updated to reflect the newer devices with no screen borders. In iTunes, an iPhone 17 is still depicted as if it was an iPhone 8, with screen borders and an area for a home button. Not characteristic for a company that prides itself, or used to, on the details.

That said, I don't think the benefits as quite as clear as they used to be, as from what I've seen with OS26, even though the download is still a full .ipsw package, the speed with which the payload is copied and staged on the device takes much less time than a full-package transfer would seem to require, and did in the past. In short, an .ipsw update now seems to utilize the truncated process, just like a delta OTA update, despite being drawn from a full download.

But, there are still benefits to this method, as the Mac acts as the unpacking and staging host, and for devices short of free space, unchecking a media sync box is an easy way to free up the needed space on the device, followed by another sync to restore the media.

And, as part of the process, the Mac will automatically perform an updated device backup, at least if there is already one present, before doing the update.
 
Old habits are hard to break, so I'm still in the minority who still connects their devices to my Mac regularly, for backups and updates.

Oh for sure. I like have local backups as well.

But I don't user them for switching phones any more. The OTA has worked fine for me and I switch every year with the iPhone Upgrade Program.
 
Oh for sure. I like have local backups as well.

But I don't user them for switching phones any more. The OTA has worked fine for me and I switch every year with the iPhone Upgrade Program.

I'm only partially invested in the cloud, so local backups are still the method for me.

The upgraded USB 3.confusingUSBIFsoup connection on the 17P really manifested itself when restoring data from the local backup to the new phone. Would have been an even faster process if Apple hasn't abandoned .ipa files, and apps didn't need to be downloaded OTA.

Apple would have a real problem if the OTA processes were unreliable, or didn't function properly. But it's still nice to have other options.
 
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