How to setup an old iMac G4 for resale

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  1. drsox macrumors 65816

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    I have an iMac G4/800 17in (this one : http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/imac/specs/imac_800_17_fp.html) to sell for a friend. It's running OSX 10.3.9. With my new Macs I would do internet recovery or reinstall by using and then disconnecting an external drive. This iMac has no internet recovery (I'm pretty sure) and also has no install discs with it.

    What can I do to remove the old stuff other than deleting it a bit at a time ?
     
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    Your best bet is to do a clean install with the system disks. Since they're gone, perhaps pick up a copy cheaply on ebay.
     
  3. drsox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. What version should I look for - the original one (10.1.2) or the one that is on it now (10.3.9) or any one in-between ? How many discs are there in a single version ? Cheers
     
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    Here's your choice of OS X: http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/mac-osx-mac-os-10-ppc
    I'd go for Panther or Tiger.
    You may start the imac G4 in target mode, connect it with firewire to your own Mac and run the installation without burnig a DVD from your current Mac onto the G4 iMac.
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    If your friend need WiFi I'd recommend an Edimax USB mini ethernet adapter, because the seller provides drivers for early PPC-OSX (the iMacs Airport does not support current security standards).
     
  5. drsox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks for the info. Very helpful.
    I've never used DVDs in OSX before so I'm going to have to ask some dumb questions. (Can't go the firewire route as I have no other firewire devices.) How do I burn the DVDs from the expanded files. Do I need an OSX version of Roxio (e.g. ?) or is there a native OSX burner app included somewhere ?

    Cheers
     
  6. redheeler macrumors 603

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    You can simply open Disk Utility, select the image and click Burn.
     
  7. drsox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. I eventually found that !
     
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    I tried downloading and burning these. Neither worked. Panther CD1 and Tiger CD1 were not recognised as being able to use as boot discs. What else should I be doing to get these to work ?
     
  9. bobesch macrumors 6502a

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    Panther CD-images are signed as toast-images. Maybe it requires Toast to burn a bootable cd?
     
  10. Daniël Oosterhuis macrumors 6502a

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    No, as .toast is just a fancy .iso. The Tiger discs are .toast files as well, and I burned them fine after changing the extension to .iso. You are holding C while booting the Mac, right, @drsox? Or try holding Option during boot, sometimes it takes it a few tries and that tends to help.
     
  11. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    I'd go for the Tiger 10.4.6.dmg - that will require writing to DVD - though some aging Macs struggle reading/booting from DVDs.
    Failing that, download Toast from the same site and burn the CD image using that.
     
  12. drsox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    I renamed the files as .iso, then they burnt OK, but did not boot.
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    Yes, I tried that also. Does the process fail if I'm trying to boot with a .iso that is "lower" than the existing OS ? i.e trying to overwrite a 10.3.9 structure wth a 10.3.1 version ? But in this case the 10.4.x (Tiger) also failed on a 10.3.9 drive.
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    Where's the toast .dmg ? On the same site ?
     
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    http://macintoshgarden.org/apps/toast-5-titanium

    Another point to consider is preferably burn to -R disks - Macs can be fussy. Although it plays DVDs and CDs fine my G4 iMac will not boot from one, in fact any attempt completely locks it up, you can't even reach Open firmware - I have to prize it from the mechanism.
     
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    Thanks. Tried that. I burnt a CD-R of Panther CD1 - that didn't work either.
     
  17. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    It may well be the drive is not fully functional same as mine.

    Another way in is to write a disk image to a USB stick then get the iMac to boot from that - it's not something I've done but there's plenty of guides in this forum.
     
  18. Daniël Oosterhuis macrumors 6502a

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    Does it spit out the disc? Again, try holding the Option button on the keyboard while it boots. It will show all the boot devices. If it spits it out, put it back in and hit refresh, and maybe, just maybe, it will accept the disc. I've had to do this with my Quicksilver every time I wanted to boot it off any disc, but it works!
     
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    I might have solved this ! I had the inkling that the files that my 2x CD writers were writing were just too "new" for the iMac's CD reader to see (as far as a boot is concerned). So I made a new CD-R using the iMac's writer and the .iso files I had already burnt to disc. (Copied to the iMac's desktop from the iMac CD reader). Well, CD1 was recognised as a valid boot option, but not CD2. Would CD2 be expected to be bootable as well or does CD2 just follow on from CD1 in the install process ? CD3 also fails to be recognised.
     
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    Any comment on my question #19 ?
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    Any comment on my question #19 ?
     
  21. Dronecatcher macrumors 68000

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    I have the Tiger 4 CD set and CD2 can't be booted from which makes perfect sense - it's always worked fine after using CD1.
     
  22. drsox thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Thanks. I'll try with the set I have.
     
  23. Daniël Oosterhuis macrumors 6502a

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    The second, third and fourth CDs are not bootable. The installer will ask you to swap the discs, it doesn't reboot.
     
  24. Slix macrumors 6502a

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    What I've done in the past is to simply create a new admin user with a simple password and then delete the original user you had. That way the applications are intact and your user account is deleted.
     
  25. Daniël Oosterhuis macrumors 6502a

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    Going into the single user mode and deleting the user account is better. Upon reboot, it will play the Welcome video and guide the new user as if it were a clean install.
     

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