How to specify a die-cut

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  1. macaddict23 macrumors 6502

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    Hello. I'm designing a Presentation Folder in Illustrator, and I was wondering how one would specify the CD and Business Card slit. Thanks.
     
  2. decksnap macrumors 68040

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    I usually design it as line art in illustrator and place it into the Quark file. I use straight magenta so it's obvious to the printer.

    If it's not obvious enough, put a text box outside of the document area that says 'magenta lines - Die cut only'.
     
  3. Wippet macrumors newbie

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    Draw where you would like the cuts to be, or get a cutter made by a CAD operator. Putting the cutter on another layer is helpful, just make sure its at the top. Colour the cutter in a spot colour and name it "CUTTER" "KNIFE" ect and set it to overprint in the attributes menu in illustrator.

    If you are also ripping the file make sure you set the cutter colour to overprint there also.
     
  4. decksnap macrumors 68040

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    The above (wippet) is really not necessary. Just make it obvious which lines are the die lines.
     
  5. PixelFactory macrumors regular

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    My current way is to make a custom spot color and name it "Die Cut DO NOT PRINT" and use that for the die lines. This makes sure that it will be seen as a separate printer color and not integrate into 4 color artwork like a magenta line would.
     
  6. RubberChicken macrumors regular

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    Wippet and PixelFactory are spot on

    1. Unless you are confident in paper engineering get a dieline file from your printer - if it does not work then it's their fault.

    2. Make it a spot colour and name it dieline and top layer.

    3. MUST make it overprinting.
     
  7. a cat *miaow* macrumors regular

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    Illustrator has a registration colour already - you just need to use this
     
  8. Blue Velvet Moderator emeritus

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    Best not to use a registration colour; it runs across all plates. Best to use a spot colour... Pantone Orange (021C) is my favourite for this work usually, as I don't use a lot of orange in most daily work and it's clearly visible on screen. I use a 0.3pt stroke.

    And yeah, now that Quark and InDesign have layers, I always put it on a seperate layer so it can locked and made invisible when working on the artwork itself.
     
  9. oscuh macrumors 6502

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    I always create my die lines as a Reddish spot color named #DIE so it seps out easily.

    Funny how we all develop our own little methods :D

    Oh, and their are gobs of templates out there already for these, so I hope you're not trying to build one from scratch.
     
  10. Abraxsis macrumors 6502

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    I'm an art director and head designer at a toy company. I deal with printers on a daily basis.

    IMO magenta is becoming the "traditional" color for printers. When I have a die line created it always comes in that color from the printers, so I use the same when I create something myself. Of the 5 print companies I use, and the countless factories that print our hang tags, they all prefer magenta. The only time I would suggest straying from this would be if your product is loaded with magenta already, then use another color that "doesn't belong."

    I also agree with the other person who stated that if you weren't familiar with paper engineering to have the printer make you a die line. Ive been doing my job for awhile now and even I still have a die maker do my box lines, I just don't trust myself, lol.
     
  11. AlexisV macrumors 68000

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    Yep, I'd stick with magenta.

    Create in in Illustrator - you'll have get accurate with those millimetres - and then paste it on top of your artwork in Quark/Indesign. That way you'll be able to check it's spot on accurate.

    I then just create a new blank page at the end of the document an place the cutter on that.

    Solid lines for cuts, dashed lines for folds by the way.

    Have you ever seen a cutter in the flesh? They're intricate products and one of the few things that aren't that mechanised and take some skill to produce.
     
  12. macaddict23 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hi. Thanks for the help! Why does the color need to Overprint? Thanks again!
     
  13. PixelFactory macrumors regular

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    It will make sure your die cut won't knock out your artwork if prepress misses it. As you can see, we all have different ways to specify die cuts. Best to talk to your printer and find out how they would like you to set up your file.
     

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