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Thanks, MacRumors... I didn't even know this could be activated by 3D Touch, but now I'm going to miss it... 😕
 
Lol. No. I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the fact that 3D Touch has existed for 5 years and not a single meaningful application for it has arisen in that entire time.
- 99% of it can (and should) be accomplished with long press instead.
- What few things actualized used the pressure sensitivity were gimmicks.

This one here (text selection) was the single meaningful thing that used the hardware, and it came directly from Apple. Despite 5 years of availability to developers, they did nothing with it. Nothing worth keeping or writing home about.

That makes it a dog. Dedicated hardware that dictates several design, engineering, and manufacturing concerns...for one measly feature. Nope. Out. Time for something new.
Pretty sure many people who made use of 3D Touch on a daily basis would disagree. Even the things that were just initially introduced with it have still been overall better/faster with it than with something line long press (which still can't do a number of different things that can be done with 3D Touch, and various things that it can do are now done in a clunkier way because of it).
 
How does the new way avoid this problem?

(I’m not giving you a hard time; I’m genuinely curious how they’ve changed the workflow :))
I guess it's not really about 'new way' vs 'old way'. It's now 2 different ways to access the track pad function. Either way, using the track pad to select the exact point you want to place the cursor now is WAY easier in iOS 13 for me. Apple must have adjusted the algorithm somehow. Whatever they did, I'm liking it a lot more with 3D Touch on my iPhone XS. I also just discovered (with 3D touch at least) once you place the cursor you can press harder once to select the word you're on, press 2 times to select the sentence and press 3 times to select the whole paragraph. This might be a 3D touch only feature but I'm not sure. I think I read above in the comments that tapping with another finger in the trackpad area with haptic touch achieves the same thing but I can't verify as I don't own and iPhone 11 (Pro or otherwise).
 
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Lol. No. I'm pretty sure it has more to do with the fact that 3D Touch has existed for 5 years and not a single meaningful application for it has arisen in that entire time.
- 99% of it can (and should) be accomplished with long press instead.
- What few things actualized used the pressure sensitivity were gimmicks.

This one here (text selection) was the single meaningful thing that used the hardware, and it came directly from Apple. Despite 5 years of availability to developers, they did nothing with it. Nothing worth keeping or writing home about.

That makes it a dog. Dedicated hardware that dictates several design, engineering, and manufacturing concerns...for one measly feature. Nope. Out. Time for something new.
I also never found it compelling, maybe because it was never clear what it did when. It was a hidden UI that never encouraged me to activate it. This feature is a great example-- I would have like to know it existed, but it sat there hidden until they took it away.

Also, 3D Touch never got integrated into iPad or iPod Touch, so there's a difference in UI across devices. Watch will probably keep it because there are so few ways to manipulate the UI on Watch that they're forced to hide some of it. My guess is that iPad never got it because of challenges in implementing it on such a large display.
 
Pretty sure many people who made use of 3D Touch on a daily basis would disagree. Even the things that were just initially introduced with it have still been overall better/faster with it than with something line long press (which still can't do a number of different things that can be done with 3D Touch, and various things that it can do are now done in a clunkier way because of it).

Yep, it was faster to respond to texts at the top of the screen, too. Now I have to press and hold a little longer to quick reply. I will miss 3D Touch GREATLY, and it's a real shame.
 
Yep, it was faster to respond to texts at the top of the screen, too. Now I have to press and hold a little longer to quick reply. I will miss 3D Touch GREATLY, and it's a real shame.
You mean on the new devices?
 
You mean on the new devices?

Yes. On my new iPhone 11 Pro Max, I have to press and hold the text message at the top of the screen. It takes THAT much longer time to bring up quick reply. On my XS Max etc I'd just press firmly on the text and it was instant to reply.
 
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A big step backwards for many of us. Just have to use the iPad muscle memory for this feature. Practicing on my max, this is a far slower way to do a quick edit or highlight.
I feel crippled without this. I’m going to try to adjust, but I’m leaning toward returning this upgrade.
 
I wish there was a way of using this when trying to select a bunch of text in Safari.

I believe there's something very similar for selecting text in Safari or any other application -- it was in one of the MR highlights/tips videos about iOS 13 (I haven't updated yet so I can't give particulars)
 
3D Touch was fantastic - but hugely underutilised. I fear it was because Apple couldn't have it on every device. Which meant they couldn't have 3D Touch do anything unique, or it'd be something that other devices couldn't do (having said that iPads couldn't priortise App store downloads for a couple of years so they broke their own rules)

If the iPad had got it, it might have been a different story. But even then you had many generations of iPhone without it. It's a real shame because if it had continue to be built into iPhones we could have at least have iOS with 3D touch only gestures which made sense for a handheld devices - it might have taken 5 years for every iPhone to have 3D touch in the trickle down effect but still.

It did also irk me that a hard press was registered with an unnecessary delay too, it could have been instant but it was turned into a slightly shorter long press.
 
You can’t highlight words anymore with it.

exactly!

from the king is tech companies, Apple’s reason for abandoning 3D Touch in iPhone to increase battery life is a piss-poor excuse! Easily the 3D Touch engine could’ve been made MUCh smaller and stronger!

also duplicating the function on 3D Touch enabled devices is disputable n despicable imho.

iPhone X/XS here I come.
 
3D Touch was fantastic - but hugely underutilised. I fear it was because Apple couldn't have it on every device. Which meant they couldn't have 3D Touch do anything unique, or it'd be something that other devices couldn't do (having said that iPads couldn't priortise App store downloads for a couple of years so they broke their own rules)

If the iPad had got it, it might have been a different story. But even then you had many generations of iPhone without it. It's a real shame because if it had continue to be built into iPhones we could have at least have iOS with 3D touch only gestures which made sense for a handheld devices - it might have taken 5 years for every iPhone to have 3D touch in the trickle down effect but still.

It did also irk me that a hard press was registered with an unnecessary delay too, it could have been instant but it was turned into a slightly shorter long press.

excuses.
3D Touch was on every device after 6S except for the SE and even that I think had it. Only the XR and now iPhone 11 series don’t have it.
Apple did NOT advertise it enough nor feature it enough - their stupidity because their heavily having Reviewers push it now and for the last year discount it - all I swear all the big you tubers of anything Apple have been discounting 3D Touch the past year: iJustine, MKBHD, EvrythingApplePro, etc all of them just about on every iOS video they’ve done. Y? Cause they’ve been fed info by Apple and paid for it.

again the engine could’ve been made stronger and much smaller. The mobo as well.

iPad 2018, every Pro actually sort of does have it but it’s implemented in the pressure sensitivity of the screen - pencil pressure and ignoring spurious inputs from the hand resting on the screen. This shows just poor engineering direction n decision making.
Never had an issue with 3D Touch vs tap n hold to make icons giggle or move icons about. Now with this duplicating feature on my ip8 n iOS 13 it’s screwing up my UI use. Arrrgh
 
It did also irk me that a hard press was registered with an unnecessary delay too, it could have been instant but it was turned into a slightly shorter long press.

not sure what phone you’ve experienced this on or with what is but since the iPhone 7 it’s been instant for me - 7, 8, X & back on the 8: all are the 256GB variant

funny now with haptic touch it’s half a second to a full second slower on my iPhone 8 on iOS 13 that 3D Touch in every use case.
 
not sure what phone you’ve experienced this on or with what is but since the iPhone 7 it’s been instant for me - 7, 8, X & back on the 8: all are the 256GB variant

funny now with haptic touch it’s half a second to a full second slower on my iPhone 8 on iOS 13 that 3D Touch in every use case.

It was definitely never "instant" on any iPhone (and i've had them all with 3d touch) it was a short delay but it was still laggier that it needed to be none the less.
 
It was definitely never "instant" on any iPhone (and i've had them all with 3d touch) it was a short delay but it was still laggier that it needed to be none the less.

sorry but I’m in full disagreement. I’ve always experienced fast response with 3D Touch and it’s now better with iOS 13 since haptic touch is introduced which is buggy on my iPhone 8.
Maybe the differences in the apps you & I use, maybe the variance of apps maybe the free storage or maybe I clear my iOS/springboard cache every 4mths who knows but I’m up to a challenge of a video posting if you are too?
Test app icons pop
Test menu item or in app shortcuts with 3D Touch.

I find it odd you can say it’s slow on a 7 or 8 prior to ios13 as haptic never existed unless you’ve loaded it.
And many of us have had many of the iPhone over the years.
 
sorry but I’m in full disagreement. I’ve always experienced fast response with 3D Touch and it’s now better with iOS 13 since haptic touch is introduced which is buggy on my iPhone 8.
Maybe the differences in the apps you & I use, maybe the variance of apps maybe the free storage or maybe I clear my iOS/springboard cache every 4mths who knows but I’m up to a challenge of a video posting if you are too?
Test app icons pop
Test menu item or in app shortcuts with 3D Touch.

I find it odd you can say it’s slow on a 7 or 8 prior to ios13 as haptic never existed unless you’ve loaded it.
And many of us have had many of the iPhone over the years.

Well we're all running the same phones and we're all seeing the same things and you're the only person in history ive ever heard say that a hard press was "instant".

I don't have a 3D touch phone anymore or i'd show you it's at least a 500ms delay until the menu popping up.
 
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