How will Apple compensate those who lost their email access?

Discussion in 'Apple Music, Apple Pay, iCloud, Apple Services' started by sadsack, Jul 28, 2008.

  1. sadsack macrumors member

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    Now dot mac/Mobile me is probabaly back up to 99.999999 % up - time (obviously as it only impacted about 2% honest), how will apple compensate for those like me who lost email for 7 days
     
  2. edesignuk Moderator emeritus

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    You already got it, they extended your service for free by 30 days. Might have even been 60 in the end, I can't remember what I've read now :confused:
     
  3. trabera macrumors newbie

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    The 30 day extension was given before all of this mess happened.
     
  4. sadsack thread starter macrumors member

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    In my opinion 30 days for 7 days of no access and loss of emails is not good enough.
     
  5. Satori macrumors 6502a

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    Since you're asking... what do you think is fair? If you have an idea of how you should be compensated why not try your luck with apple customer service. You never know!
     
  6. DiamondMac macrumors 68040

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    The extension was more than fair

    I was as mad as ANYONE ON HERE but as long as they keep the damn service working AND keep the extension they gave us, that is fine
     
  7. grafikat macrumors 6502a

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    Looks like I picked a good time to wait on new software
     
  8. sparkomatic macrumors 6502a

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    I'm a 1%er and have received nothing about a 30 day extension. I thought that was for those in the UK whose credit cards were charged incorrectly?
     
  9. Mr Skills macrumors 6502a

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    1. If they considered a 30-day extension to be appropriate for what they called "a rocky start", then the comparative disaster of people being completely without email access for over a week (edit - and losing emails completely) should logically be worth a lot more.

    2. The lack of communication (until the very end) should also be taken into account. Those of us computer literate enough to come on forums like this at least knew we weren't alone. Those less technical people who had picked up .Mac from the local computer shop because it 'just works' were likely having a seriously stressful time.

    3. A thirty day extension is useless to those who - completely understandably - do not want to continue with the service. Apple's PR should realise that they have lost those people no matter what, but compensating them in some way would at least mitigate the word-of-mouth damage to some extent.

    4. Unless you specifically need push, most of what mobileme offers is available elsewhere for free. Everyone I know with MobileMe bought it because of the convenience and integration and because it 'just works'. This makes their reputation especially vulnerable when things go awry.

    5. This has been all over the media. They need to be seen to be generous.

    They have done something far worse that just lose some emails - they have damaged peoples' confidence, and with a service like this, confidence is absolutely critical. Quite apart from any discussions about what they morally "should" do, it seems to be common sense that they will have to do a great deal to win back the trust of those who suffered that nightmare for over a week.
     
  10. Sky Blue Guest

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    Steve Jobs will personally call you and tell you you're a slime bucket.
     
  11. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

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    I think the 1% should get something else too.

    Everyone got the 30 day extension (or they should have, many people still don't have an e-mail or extension - including me), so logically this additional problem (including data loss) should warrant something else. Maybe another 30 days or something.
     
  12. FSUSem1noles macrumors 68000

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    Well Apple already gave out 30 day extensions, if you want to be a real stickler about it I suppose you could call them up and try to get another 30 days, only you know how much of an inconvenience it was that your email was down..

    It wasn't a major inconvenience to me and I understand that it's still a work in progress..
     
  13. ScottSyrNY macrumors member

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    From July 11, I have been without (except for maybe 3 days) the ability to update my iWeb website as well as visitors unable to add comments (my web site is centered around my Fathers current fight with cancer). Since approximately July 18, I have been unable to send ANY .Me email while receiving some emails and losing some emails (hard to tell how much I've been losing, but its been a lot). Hopefully posters aren't foolish enough to make blanket statements on what should be sufficient to the so called 1%ers since our experience has not all been the same.

    I'm not going into much more detail, but lets be thoughtful of us that STILL DO NOT have service. Many of these threads that I'm reading are misleading as well as just plain incorrect.

    FWIW - I'm happy for those that have restored service...but, some of us are still patiently awaiting the service that we've paid for and rely on.
     
  14. zedsdead macrumors 68040

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    The 30 day extension was for the disaster of a start, and the falsified "Push" service.

    Those people who lost their email (which has still not been restored, only on me.com & only since mid-July) and were without service for a week deserve a free year of MobileMe. The entire-fact that a server had failed and destroyed peoples email is a major blunder, not to mention how poor the communication was with MobileMe members.

    For the record, I am not part of that 1% (if it is indeed that small).
     
  15. sadsack thread starter macrumors member

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    would you know it, i was about to send a message to apple in regards to me not being happy. i think they heard me and pulled my account. No access to email...yippie, at least they are consistent.
     
  16. umop apisdn macrumors member

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    I've had no problems so far having been a user since 2002 (iTools, dotMac, MobileMe)

    But, if this were to have happened to me I would want another years subscription for free. If not, then a refund and would use a free service which is reliable.

    A paid subscription service, who's email cannot be accessed is unacceptable.
     
  17. danny_w macrumors 601

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    I got the email on 7/16 saying I would get a 30-day extension but haven't seen anything yet; my MobileMe account page now says my account will expire in 11 days.
     
  18. Sky Blue Guest

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    Free Dashboard widgets
     
  19. dobbin macrumors 6502a

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    12 months free or I won't renew, and I'm not even part of the 1%. It's not that I think I need a refund or compensation, its just that the whole episode has made me look closely at what I get for my money, and what I could get elsewhere for free.

    Apple need to give everyone 12 months free. They then need to spend those 12 months seriously impressing us and rebuilding their reputation if they ever want any more money from me for online services.

    5 years ago, dotmac was simpler to use than the free alternatives, and gave me a nice easy way to share my photos on the web. Nowadays free services like facebook or flickr are just as easy to use, and have more features (tagging, searching etc).

    Apple need to get back ahead of the competition if they want to charge a premium.
     
  20. IgnatiusTheKing macrumors 68040

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    That's not going to happen. I could see the 1% getting that, but those of us who never experienced the email outage don't deserve anything more than the 30-day extension. Demanding recompense without actually having suffered is so typical these days. It makes me sick.
     
  21. clevin macrumors G3

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    I think they should compensate those who lost their mails permanently first.

    Including business loss, I would imagine this can only be solved by a class action in court. I can't see apple willingly compensate business loss caused by delay or lost of emails.
     
  22. IgnatiusTheKing macrumors 68040

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    Oooh. Let's sue! How also, awesomely typical.
     
  23. sparkomatic macrumors 6502a

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    1%er here...and I'm starting to get the feeling we aren't going to see anything. I got the email stating that all services were back online and they were very sorry and will do better.

    As much as I think they should do something, they could also go the direction of just sweeping it under the rug.
     
  24. clevin macrumors G3

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    why not, 7 days w/o business mail exchange, customer records went disappear permanently. They sure deserve getting those $$$ back from apple.
     
  25. docdailey macrumors newbie

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    If you were using mobileme as your sole email for business that is called a bad business decision.
     

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