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lol so the only options we have are be perfectly happy with everything about the iPhone, or go elsewhere? Good grief. We want more RAM, why does that offend you so much?

Because threads like this are blasphemy to "Apple can do no wrong" diehard fanboy apologists.
 
Is the difference noticeable?

You can only use one app on a phone at a time. A phone is not like a desktop where you have 27 programs going at once and you are switching between them alot. 2GB is a nice to have but Im not convinced at all it is necessary.
 
lol so the only options we have are be perfectly happy with everything about the iPhone, or go elsewhere? Good grief. We want more RAM, why does that offend you so much?

Understandable. Samsung Galaxy S5 = 2mb ram. Note4 = 3mb IIRC. You have options. Doesn't sound like the Apple phone ecosystem suits you any longer so go to a competitor.
 
Of course it is.

The effect will be more noticeable on the 6+ than the 6, but of course RAM is important and has a noticeable effect on performance.

Amazing at all the rationalization on this on these boards.

Yeah the 1GB of ram on my iPad Air is just fine. Minus a safari tab refresh here and there I dont even notice. A phone has a much smaller screen at 5.5". There is less need for 2GB of ram than an iPad IMO.
 
You sir/madam are clueless.

Youre the clueless one. Common sense says buy something that suits your needs and stop complaining. There are options for a reason. If enough people start complaining that ram is an issue for them Apple will address the deficiency in a future release.
 
lol so the only options we have are be perfectly happy with everything about the iPhone, or go elsewhere? Good grief. We want more RAM, why does that offend you so much?

Yes, that is the only option.

The 6 upgraded the screen sizes and resolutions, upgraded to wireless AC, added NFC, upgraded the processor and added a 128GB option. But because the only thing they didn't upgrade was the RAM, a thing most people won't even notice, we need to see 50 whining topics about it?
 
I would've expected the spec nerds to actually understand how the phone works.

All of the comments in here about multi-tasking apps are bogus. The iPhone doesn't multi-task in the traditional sense. It's not like on your PC when the app is still chugging away in the background. It's not like an Android device in which the apps continue to run at full power in the background robbing you of CPU, RAM and battery. There are some APIs that are made available to "backgrounded" apps. For example, streaming music or access to the GPS antenna. So, unless you have 50 apps streaming music at the same time, this argument is pointless.

The only place where there would be some benefit for any user (power users included) would be in Safari. Personally, I think this could be fixed with updates to Safari. In general, it's junk.

This is a numbers game that Samsung is sure to jump on in their next round of ads, but the user experience is the only thing that matters in the end. I think Apple has proven with over 4 MILLION pre-orders and iOS users are pretty darn happy.
 
Youre the clueless one. Common sense says buy something that suits your needs and stop complaining. There are options for a reason. If enough people start complaining that ram is an issue for them Apple will address the deficiency in a future release.

But what if there are ten things you look for in a phone, and Apple can provide nine of those, significantly more than anyone else? Obviously it's the best option, but it doesn't mean you aren't allowed to be unhappy that it doesn't provide everything you need. For many people, the truly perfect phone doesn't even exist, and probably never will.

If there are countless circlejerky threads about how amazing the new phone is (and I'll be camping Thursday at 6pm), surely people can be unhappy, right?

Or does that make them clueless?
 
Understandable. Samsung Galaxy S5 = 2mb ram. Note4 = 3mb IIRC. You have options. Doesn't sound like the Apple phone ecosystem suits you any longer so go to a competitor.

It's not all or nothing, though.

It's these "you either love everything about it or it isn't for you" or "I'm not having problem X so problem X must not exist" attitudes that I don't understand.

I'm a huge Apple fan, and the memory limitations aren't enough to drive me away (or most other people on here who want more ram, either).
 
It's like Windows 95 on a 75MHz Packard Bell vs Core-i7 haswell-e w/ 32gb of RAM.

So yeah, super big deal.

:rolleyes: I get a kick out of everyone who took this seriously. It's 2014 and we can't identify troll bait.

That said, those who have pointed out Apple wouldn't release a product that's known ahead of time to be sluggish or visibly lag, are dead on. Animation times are calculated to allow the system to do what it needs to do.

Phone computes, you watch zoomy bs for a split second. Magic. :apple:
 
you could add more RAM all you want it won't stop safari from reloading. It's all up to Apple from stopping Safari from refreshing like that not adding more RAM. I don't even notice the problem since I don't leave a crap load of apps and tabs open.
 
You load safari. Open some tabs. You go back a tab or two and see it reloading.

Will the average user note that it is a ram deficiency? Probably not. But what is happening is a result of said ram deficiency.

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You can only use one app on a phone at a time. A phone is not like a desktop where you have 27 programs going at once and you are switching between them alot. 2GB is a nice to have but Im not convinced at all it is necessary.

See Safari tabs as reference to why running multiple apps in tandem is not the only thing that would benefit from additional ram. I won't argue it's NECESSARY. I have a phone with 512mb of ram that still gets the job done. So very little is necessary in terms of the yearly upgrades we see...
 
Simliar to Windows 7 2GB vs 4GB but still different. Windows may create Virtual memory on your local disk but iOS7 or lower will not.
 
I'm sure it matters but Apple won't release a buggy or unusable product.


No, never.

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Am I the only one who kills running apps if I'm not using them and also doesn't have more than a couple Safari tabs open? I don't see the need to have 30 Safari tabs open taking up memory. Just because you can open 30 tabs, doesn't mean you should. A clean iPhone is a happy iPhone.
 
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But what if there are ten things you look for in a phone, and Apple can provide nine of those, significantly more than anyone else? Obviously it's the best option, but it doesn't mean you aren't allowed to be unhappy that it doesn't provide everything you need. For many people, the truly perfect phone doesn't even exist, and probably never will.

If there are countless circlejerky threads about how amazing the new phone is (and I'll be camping Thursday at 6pm), surely people can be unhappy, right?

Or does that make them clueless?
Complaining gets old after awhile. Nothing is going to be perfect. Everytime someone has a complaint they post a brand new thread instead of going into the thousands of threads on iPhone ram that already exist where people can circle jerk about how the iPhone doesn't have enough ram.

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Am I the only one who kills running apps if I'm not using them and also doesn't have more than a couple Safari tabs open? I don't see the need to have 30 Safari tabs open taking up memory. Just because you can open 30 tabs, doesn't mean you should. A clean iPhone is a happy iPhone.

No you aren't. I do exactly the same thing. I have a brain.
 
I would've expected the spec nerds to actually understand how the phone works.

All of the comments in here about multi-tasking apps are bogus. The iPhone doesn't multi-task in the traditional sense. It's not like on your PC when the app is still chugging away in the background. It's not like an Android device in which the apps continue to run at full power in the background robbing you of CPU, RAM and battery. There are some APIs that are made available to "backgrounded" apps. For example, streaming music or access to the GPS antenna. So, unless you have 50 apps streaming music at the same time, this argument is pointless.

The only place where there would be some benefit for any user (power users included) would be in Safari. Personally, I think this could be fixed with updates to Safari. In general, it's junk.

This is a numbers game that Samsung is sure to jump on in their next round of ads, but the user experience is the only thing that matters in the end. I think Apple has proven with over 4 MILLION pre-orders and iOS users are pretty darn happy.

Although the apps in the background don't use CPU/GPU, they still DO use RAM to stay in memory. The same goes for Safari tabs. If your phone runs out of RAM, it closes an app or a tab or two, erasing everything you've done in that app or tab. Let's say you're doing something important in an app, and want to check something online. You leave that app and launch Safari, check what you were looking for, go back to the app only to find it has reloaded and erased everything you've done.
You can talk about optimization as much as you want but the fact is, ever since iOS 7 and 64-bit iPads (and iPhones a little bit less), Safari reloading tabs has been an issue for lots of people and is yet to be seen whether it's been fixed in iOS 8.
 
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