HP Elitebook 8730W. Time to ask apple a question!

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Babaknt, Aug 13, 2008.

  1. Babaknt macrumors newbie

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    HP took the wraps off a trio of notebooks aimed at business users that want the security and durability of a business machine, but with the multimedia functionality (Blu-ray, discrete ATI and Nvidia graphics) of a more mainstream machine.

    Specs:

    HP EliteBook8530P

    15.4-inch display (with optional 1280 x 800, 1680 x 1050, and 1950 x 1200-pixel resolutions)
    Windows Vista Business, Vista Basic, or Business downgrade to XP
    Intel Core 2 Duo processor (up to 2.8-GHz)
    Supports up to a whopping 8GB of RAM
    120GB/160GB/250GB 5,400-rpm hard drives; 160GB/250GB/320GB 7,200-rpm hard drives (with HP 3D DriveGuard); 80GB SSD
    Blu-ray R/RE optical drive; DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL drive. The optical bay can also be used to store a secondary hard drive (250GB, 5400-rpm or 320GB, 7,200-rpm) that allows RAID 1 mirroring or RAID 0 striping
    ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650 graphics with 256MB of video memory (512MB of HyperMemory)
    Optional EV-DO or HSDPA mobile broadband
    2-megapixel webcam
    802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi
    Bluetooth 2.0
    ExpressCard/54, memory card reader
    4 USB 2.0, HDMI, eSATA, FireWire, VGA, headphone, mic, Ethernet
    TPM, fingerprint sensor, HP ProtectTools, Disk Sanitizer, Drive encryption, Enhanced Drive Lock, Credential Manager, integrated SmartCard reader, Intel Centrino 2 with vPro capable
    8-cell battery
    14.0 x 10.4 x 1.1 inches
    6.3 pounds
    Certified SuSe Linux Enterprise Desktop 10

    HP EliteBook 8530w

    15.4 inch display (with optional 1280 x 800, 1680 x 1050, and 1950 x 1200-pixel resolutions)
    Windows Vista Business, Vista Basic, or Business downgrade to XP
    Intel Core 2 Duo processor (up to 3.0-GHz)
    Supports up to 8GB of RAM
    120GB/160GB/250GB 5,400-rpm hard drives; 160GB/250GB/320GB 7,200-rpm hard drives (with HP 3D DriveGuard); 80GB SSD
    Blu-ray R/RE optical drive; DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL drive. The optical bay can also be used to store a secondary hard drive (250GB, 5400-rpm or 320GB, 7,200-rpm) that allows RAID 1 mirroring or RAID 0 striping
    Nvidia Quadra FX 770M graphics (with 512MB of memory); ATI Mobility FireGL V5700 (256MB memory)
    Optional EV-DO or HSDPA mobile broadband
    802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi
    Bluetooth 2.0
    ExpressCard/54, memory card reader
    4 USB 2.0, HDMI, eSATA, FireWire, VGA, stereo headphone, stereo mic, Ethernet
    TPM, fingerprint sensor, HP ProtectTools, Disk Sanitizer, Drive Encryption, Enhanced Drive Lock, Credential Manager, Intel Centrino 2 with vPro capable
    8-cell battery
    14.0 x 10.4 x 1.1 inches
    6.3 pounds
    Certified SuSe Linux Enterprise Desktop 10

    HP EliteBook 8730w

    17-inch display with optional 1680 x 1050, 1920 x 1200, or 1900 x 1200 LED ( with DreamColor Panel with Nvidia graphics)
    Windows Vista Business, Vista Basic, or Business downgrade to XP
    Intel Core 2 Duo processor (up to 3.0-GHz)
    Supports up to 8GB of RAM
    160GB/250GB 5,400-rpm hard drives; 160GB/250GB/320GB 7,200-rpm hard drives (with HP 3D DriveGuard)
    Blu-ray R/RE optical drive; DVD+/-RW SuperMulti DL drive. The optical bay can also be used to store a secondary hard drive (250GB, 5400-rpm or 320GB, 7,200-rpm) that allows RAID 1 mirroring or RAID 0 striping
    ATI Mobility FireGL V5725 (with 256MB of memory), Nvidia Quadro FX 3700M (1GB of video memory); Nvidia Quadro FX 2700M (512MB of memory)
    2-MP webcam
    802.11a/b/g/n Wi-Fi
    Bluetooth 2.0
    ExpressCard/54, memory card reader
    4 USB 2.0, HDMI, eSATA, FireWire, VGA, stereo headphone, stereo mic, Ethernet
    TPM, fingerprint sensor, HP ProtectTools, Disk Sanitizer, Drive encryption, Enhanced Drive Lock, Credential Manager, integrated SmartCard reader, Intel Centrino 2 with vPro capable
    8-cell battery
    15.5 x 11.1 x 1.3 inches
    6.6 pounds
    Certified SuSe Linux Enterprise Desktop 10



    Well with this much power fitted in what seems to be a quite thin 17" laptop you got to ask what the future holds for Steve's Apple and the MBP line. I dont hate the MBP or Apple, on the contrary I think they have created a very good and effective market for themselves with some iconic products. But somehow I still feel as a consumer with a choice that my question is legitimate: How much thinner and lighter can one design a laptop and lable it as "Pure power" and somehow ignore the rest of the market??
     

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  2. winninganthem macrumors 6502a

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    Newer offerings from HP, Dell and Lenovo, etc. are all relatively new things; we'll have to wait until September to really be able to compare Apple to its competitors.

    What do you mean by "ignore the rest of the market"?
     
  3. Dreamail macrumors 6502

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    And now?

    September's come and gone.
    January 2009 is here and the 17" MacBook Pro. So what's the tally comparing both:

    HP
    + better LCD option
    + up to 1GB VRAM
    + BluRay drive option
    + quad-Core CPU option
    + numeric keypad
    + eSATA
    + Fingerprint reader
    - poor battery life (just about 1 hour)
    - DDR2 RAM at 800MHz

    17" MacBook Pro
    + DDR3 RAM at 1066MHz
    + better battery life
    + smaller, more stylish case

    Not sure the Apple is the clear winner here...
     
  4. kumbaya macrumors regular

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    You forgot:

    HP
    -$5,558 with all the options you listed

    17" MacBook Pro
    +$2,849 (with harddrive upgrade to match HP)

    I think the clear winner will be the one that sells more units

    10 x 5,558 = 55,580
    100 x 2,849 = 284,900

    As a *very* generous guesstimate of relative sales..

    It's been said elsewhere, Apple produces at best pro-sumer machines, with the possible exception of the Mac Pro?

    :):apple:
     
  5. AndyCro macrumors member

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    Fingerprint readers are an unsightly novelty, and a numeric keybord has never been an issue before. These are quite throw away things in terms of both plus points or neccessities to regard in comparison.
     
  6. infernohellion macrumors 6502

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    I'm quite happy with the 17" unibody spec except the GRAPHIC CARD.

    9600M GT is so not high-end! Apple should have picked 9800M GT. I would rather have better graphics card than the optical drive.
     
  7. Dreamail macrumors 6502

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    But what if you actually need a professional portable workstation for serious 3D work and a pro-sumer class machine is just not good enough?

    And what if you are happy to spend $5600 for it as you need a portable machine (i.e. a high-end desktop is not an option for whatever reason)?


    You're basically saying if you're in that bracket - don't buy a Mac!

    Those people face the dire choice of either dumbing down their hardware (using an Apple product) or dumbing down their OS (using Windows or Linux).
    That's not ideal...
     

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