HP: From Mac to Z - the competition takes notice


Umbongo

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From Mac to Z

HP: From Mac to Z - the competition takes notice from Apple totally abandoning the Mac.
HP really engage with their workstation users and react to the market demands and they will be well aware how professionals who are constrained by hardware limitations feel about their tools. People have been making a lot of noise for 4 years now since the 2012 Mac Pro "update".

Q2 2016 was a record quarter for branded workstation sales, its a healthy market that continues to weather and HP and Dell are both fighting for it, with over a third of the market each (HP apparently in the lead). 2016 will likely see more than 4 million units shipped (including laptops) from the tier 1 vendors. It's a $12bn+ market that Apple don't care about, but everyone else does.

Apple wanting to just focus on the much bigger markets where MBPs are more than enough is fine, they should just stop dicking you all around and announce it's death already. I feel fortunate that I can Hackintosh my pain away cause I dread the stability issues I'd run into with a Hack and some of the hardware people on here stuff in 5,1 Mac Pros.

The comparison reminds me of this slide :( ahh the glory days.

 

Ph.D.

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I'm happy to see H.P. put a little pressure on Apple.

Some poor, marginalized engineer or manager working on the tube at Apple (assuming anyone is!) might feel sad or be embarrassed or irritated by the comparison these days. But that will be the end of it short of H.P. misusing a trademark, etc.
 

Ph.D.

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Jul 8, 2014
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It would be a good idea if this entire forum spams Tim Cook's Twitter so that he can finally ****ing listen.
Apple is famous for being arrogant in this respect. They know what we want before we do. They know we don't want headphone jacks, for example. And anyone who doesn't know that they don't want a headphone jack had better learn fast, since no jack for you! Same with the Mac Pro. You just don't understand that you don't want the ability to swap in a Titan or something. Silly customer!

Old: "The customer is always right."
New: "Consult and listen to our customers? HAHAHA! Get over yourselves, little consumers. Apple is always right!"
 

Sedulous

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Essentially Apple is now a consumption company not a creative company. Even if people LIKE the MacBook Pro, that market will eventually wither when the MacBook Pro doesn't fit into the rest of the ecosystem. Fewer users, fewer software options, fewer uses... dead ecosystem. And apparently that is the way Apple wants it. Very sad.
 

h9826790

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I'm happy to see H.P. put a little pressure on Apple.

Some poor, marginalized engineer or manager working on the tube at Apple (assuming anyone is!) might feel sad or be embarrassed or irritated by the comparison these days. But that will be the end of it short of H.P. misusing a trademark, etc.
I don't think they will. Their computer has been blamed form over functions for quite a few years already. They never care about that, but just make the computer smaller and smaller, run hotter and hotter.

In the old days, an Apple computer can easily last for 10 years (in term of hardware). But now? Everyone rush to buy Apple care, because lots of users said their computer failure few times in 2-3 years, and they are so HAPPY that Apple care cover the repair cost :eek:

No matter what HP said, Apple will just say their computer is smaller and looks so cool on the table. Or can run the MacOS which has the fantastic emoji, etc. They are not even listening to their customer (who pay for them), I don't think they will care about HP's comment (who didn't pay for them).

In their eyes, the HP computer is an outdated product that nobody want, and the iPad Pro can replace (if not better than) the Z. In fact, may be they didn't do anything to the Mac Pro because they believe that we already "upgrade" to the iPad Pro.
 
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