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Its the software dummy.

The hardware is nothing to get excited about, but webOS is really good.

"Its the software dummy."

I don't really know what this means. I posted a link to a leak of the tablet and the specs I didn't say it was bad.
 
"Its the software dummy."

I don't really know what this means. I posted a link to a leak of the tablet and the specs I didn't say it was bad.

I didn't say ti was bad, I said that the specs weren't anything amazing, but the OS is good.

"Its the software dummy" is something Steve Jobs said in regards to the iPhone back when it had meager hardware specs, and it means specs are less important than the OS, and range of apps. As both the iPad and the Pre Tablet, not to mention what conservative rumors on the iPad2 are saying - faster CPU, at least 512MB RAM, dual cameras, have similar specs what's going to matter more is the OS. WebOS is great, but how wide is the dev support? How many and what variety of apps and games will there be? As these are still unknown, why would you pick the Pre over the iPad or iPad2?
 
It seems to match the specs of my predictions for the iPad 2 (Cortex A9, 512MB RAM, 9.7" IPS, 16/32/64GB storage) and WebOS is looking like it's going to be quite a good tablet operating system. Hopefully it's as quick/smooth as iOS and that HP will be able to pull in more developers. The mention of having HP, Palm, and Beats branding on the device is kind of off-putting though.
 
It seems to match the specs of my predictions for the iPad 2 (Cortex A9, 512MB RAM, 9.7" IPS, 16/32/64GB storage) and WebOS is looking like it's going to be quite a good tablet operating system. Hopefully it's as quick/smooth as iOS and that HP will be able to pull in more developers. The mention of having HP, Palm, and Beats branding on the device is kind of off-putting though.

These rumours for all of the upcoming tablets have me really excited, because it means that the rumour high-end specs for the iPad 2 (that everyone thought were ridiculous at first) now seem quite feasible (with the super high-res screen still questionable).

One of the big uses I will have for the iPad 2 is reading tons of PDF files (scientific papers), and man, if it has a 'retina' display with high resolution, I will be VERY excited.
 
As a WebOS user I follow news about it and here some very good info about upcoming tablet.

It looks like HP is going with the Qualcomm MSM8660 processor clocked at 1.2GHz rather than the new hotness coming from NVIDIA (however we did see one random NVIDIA logo in the document, take that for what it's worth). However, there probably won't be any flies on that 8660, as it sports two scorpion cores in the Snapdragon-based processor.

The MSM8660 has a built-in Adreno 220 GPU with 2D/3D acceleration engines with support for Open GLES 2.0 and Open VG 1.1 acceleration, 1080p video, and integrated GPS. More on it at anandtech

The Topaz will be black with both the HP and Palm branding. They also intend to get the Beats audio branding on the device as well, at least in the software and likely on the hardware as well. Finally, they haven't closed the door on carrier branding for the 3G and 4G versions.

As far as buttons go, it looks like there will be precisely three: power, volume up, and volume down. There will be no silent / ringer switch - you will mute the Topaz by holding down the volume-down button. There will also be ways to reset and hard-reset the device by holding down various button combinations. The Topaz will have webOS's notification light.

In any case, these are the targeted specs. We'll see if anything has changed next month:processor Dual-core Qualcomm MSM8660 at 1.2GHz
Graphics Integrated Adreno 220 GPU
Screen 9.7" XGA 1024 x 768
Dimensions 190mm x 240mm x 13.7mm
Weight 700g / 1.5lb (estimated)
RAM 512MB DDR2
Storage 16g / 32g / 64g eMMC
Camera Front-facing 1.3mp camera for Video Chat
Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR
WiFi Dual-band 802.11 b/g/n
Other Radios Optional WWAN for HSPA, LTE, perhaps CDMA later
Sensors Accelerometer, eCompass, Gyro, Light Sensor, Microphone
Speakers 2 integrated speakers with Beats Audio, 3.5mm audio jack
Battery 24WHr for >8hrs, using two 3150mAh cells


Beyond that we have specs that aren't necessarily awe-inspiring. A 1024x768 screen filling out 9" behind oleophobic Gorilla Glass, 512mb of RAM, and three storage options: 16g / 32g / 64g. The board will support 128gb of RAM, but it doesn't appear like that will be an option at launch.

There will be one camera on the front of the device clocking in at 1.3 megapixels. Said camera will be used for video chat and "mug shots" and HP dearly hopes that they will be able to enable video chat beyond just webOS-to-webOS devices, including support for Skype and Google Talk. The camera will be at the top when the device is in portrait mode and won't have a status light. They won't make a version without a camera.

The Topaz is currently targeted to have a WiFi-only version as well as HSPA and LTE options with CDMA coming later. Both the HSPA and LTE versions will likely be SIM-locked but it will be possible to unlock the SIM card for use on alternate networks.

The HPSPA bands will be 850, 1900, 2100 MHz with support for quad-band EDGE. The Topaz will use a full-size SIM card via a pop-out SIM tray. They won't be supporting NFC. It looks as though the 3G and 4G versions will have A-GPS but it doesn't look like the WiFi-only version will.

On the versions with a radio, it looks like HP fully intends to support SMS/MMS on the device itself (and presumably still intends to support the text-message forwarding and call-forwarding we previously discussed).

Although it wasn't nailed down at the time of this document's writing, HP was definitely aiming to support USB Host so you could plug a digital camera into the Topaz and be able to import and edit your photos on the device.
 
Touchstone 2

The Topaz will support Touchstone inductive charging - but obviously it won't work with the current Touchstone. Instead, HP is developing something they were calling "Touchstone v2" that supports additional functionality. That functionality looks to include both Bluetooth for wireless streaming of content and speakers for music.

The tap to share functionality comes via "communication coils" that enable "tap to share" use cases. Here's what HP has planned for Touchstone v2:
Wireless charging similar to what we have now
Wireless picture sharing
Wireless website sharing
Wireless audio streaming via Bluetooth to speaker dock
Wireless map and directions
Wireless music sharing from Palm smartphone (eg Broadway) to Topaz
Wireless contact sharing
Wireless printing
Wireless video streaming from Touchstone video dock to VGA or HDMI out
Wireless video game playing via Touchstone video dock

That last is intriguing. The idea is that you can start watching a movie on the dock, but when you lift the Topaz out of the dock it switches into a wireless remote to control the video that it's wirelessly streaming to the controller for play on your television. As of last fall, HP was hoping to include a 3-axis Gyro for gaming.
 
Precentral also published a bunch of details about the tablet UI features.

Personally I find this sort of stuff far more interesting than lists of specs. Interesting snippets include cursor left/right keys on the keyboard, a multi-pane email client which appears a bit similar to Twitter's iPad App and iPad style pop-overs for editing details.
 
Personally I find this sort of stuff far more interesting than lists of specs.

I agree. A slightly faster processor interest me far less than new ways of doing things. I feel the same way about the Adam's Eden UI. Still, the question is how polished is the OS and what kind of lags or stutters, if any, are there? That's the kind of thing that makes or breaks an OS..."its the software, dummy". Also, what range of apps will it have. One thing that Apple has over Android is that the majority of the apps in its store feel like apps, while the majority of Androids feel like wallpapers and small ui tweeks.
 
I agree. A slightly faster processor interest me far less than new ways of doing things. I feel the same way about the Adam's Eden UI. Still, the question is how polished is the OS and what kind of lags or stutters, if any, are there? That's the kind of thing that makes or breaks an OS..."its the software, dummy". Also, what range of apps will it have. One thing that Apple has over Android is that the majority of the apps in its store feel like apps, while the majority of Androids feel like wallpapers and small ui tweeks.

I also agree, which is why apple is so good. At the same time though, there aren't too many OS details yet.
 
Iv'e played with webOS on one of the phones. The OS overtaxed the hardware but was extremely slick. If the tablet's guts can drive the thing sufficiently such that the user experience is slick and smooth at all times, then HP will have brought a legit iPad competitor to market. I actually hope they do, not because i am likely to switch, but because competition is good!
 
Iv'e played with webOS on one of the phones. The OS overtaxed the hardware but was extremely slick. If the tablet's guts can drive the thing sufficiently such that the user experience is slick and smooth at all times, then HP will have brought a legit iPad competitor to market. I actually hope they do, not because i am likely to switch, but because competition is good!

I think that this is the exact reason why all judgment should be withheld regarding these new tablet OS releases.

I mean, if their OS is inefficient and bloated, it will need much of those dual-core and RAM resources just to do it's thing even close to iOS. What system resources will be left over for the (non-existent at this point) applications?

What Mac OSX can do with a 1.4ghz C2D with 2gb RAM on the new 11" MBA is not the same as if that hardware was running Windows, and I think we're going to see the same kind of comparisons being made with these forthcoming tablets, as well.
 
But is it too late ? I mean, no matter how slick, smooth, or fast it is, will it be able to stop the iPad ? I read articles almost daily about businesses adopting the iPad. Big business (recently Wells Fargo).

Here's one about a Tennessee school.

http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=13880126

Is HP (with their crappy customer support) even able to slow this train down, or will it get run over and crushed into oblivion ?
 
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"Its the software dummy."

I don't really know what this means. I posted a link to a leak of the tablet and the specs I didn't say it was bad.

Unfortunately, this acts as a double edged mechanic. If questioned, the poster may refer you to a quotation. Should the same words go unquestioned, it can be read "as is". This could make ppl wonder why the quotation's origin was not mentioned on the first run. But with extra cover, people can then be told "you mean you DIDN'T know Steve Jobs said that?".

You take it as you read it I guess ;)
 
The way they handled HP slate was so F amazing. They expected to sell around 20000-30000 units and complained later that demands were so high. I don't expect anything from company like HP to ever get serious about tablet market. Web OS is nice, but HP is not.
 
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