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HP Turns WebOS Open Source, Could Offer Manufacturers Alternative to Android
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You need to start writing better fiction, and what the heck is an "echo system?"
I wish I had bought one then. I was afraid that hp would completely discontinue the product and all type of support.
They're having another firesale this sunday. Refurbished though. And only on Ebay.
So marketing is pretty important, huh.
I'm a firm believer that marketing only gets you so far... and you gotta have the products to back it up. I don't think the TouchPad was that product.
HP could have put out the coolest TV commercials ever made... but the TouchPad was still the same price as the iPad. Not a very good strategy considering they were a year late to the party... and the iPad was already on their 2nd revision. Oh... and the iPad had apps...
I don't think any amount of HP marketing would have helped the TouchPad.
And about the Palm Pre... "fastest selling" is a rate... not an amount. How many Palm Pres did they actually sell?
The Palm Pre did set some records for Sprint at launch... but that was short-lived. And a few months later Sprint started selling Android phones.
And nobody was talking about the Palm Pre anymore.
I love how well you encapsulated Microsoft's Marketing Plan, Ballmer needs to sell this to the current crop of GOP presidential hopefuls with a promise of a 2012 release of the planned $FULL_EMPLOYMENT_PACKAGE, the $TAX_CUT MODULE, and the $CHICKEN IN EVERY POT_SCREENSAVER.
They've gotta love it, it's been spoon fed to MISmanagers for decades along with $HAVE_A_JOB_FOR_LIFE_SONG by promoting the most exploitable OS ever made.
Remember that Droid commercial? The one that everyone predicted would win Moto some crazy mindshare. It turned out to be nothing more than a homophobic slam, after which Apple went on to sell record numbers of iPhones. Fast-forward a couple of years and Moto is buyout-bait. Now they're down to pulling the old RAZR name out of the casket. Truly a Weekend at Bernie's spoof.
Marketing is nice to get a foot in the door. The rest is all about the goods. The strength of the product, and really, of the entire platform.
The reason iPad sold so well was because of great marketing.
The Palm pre broke a record that was only beat by one phone. The HTC Evo.
HP is clueless if they think they can enter a tablet market without also being in the smart phone market, its all about having an ecosystem. When are they going to learn?
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You're afraid of Microsoft and Windows. It's going to rain on your Apple parade. Windows 7 is already the most successful operating system on earth. Keep spewing your drivel. And keep looking in your rear view mirror, you're about to get passed by a runaway freight train. Hang on tight!!
Except Android took the market lead from iOS.
Windows 7 is a failure? That's a laughable statement.
Microsoft messed up with Vista but 7 is a whole different animal. It's actually better optimised, fast, very stable and has excellent memory management. Get out of your Apple reality distortion field.
Yet, Windows 7 PCs are flying of shelves more than Mac PCs.
He doesnt like Windows
Never would have guessed. Windows 8 will take a pee on that parade, MS "gets it" always have. I bet Win8 will be available on disk from day 1 as well Wonder what will happen one day when they can;t quote "record breaking profits." Guess there is other drivel to use out there.
Yeah. Microsoft. Such an unimaginative, copycat company. Taking ideas from an OS they helped developed. So evil.
He doesnt like Windows
Wonder what will happen one day when they can;t quote "record breaking profits." Guess there is other drivel to use out there.
When they can't quote record profits, they will say that profits aren't important. They will change the rules as they always do, ie, sales are irrelevant unless they make Apple look good, etc, etc. They will that Windows 8 is vaporware, but they kept saying, look out Android, iOS 5 is coming. When Apple steals Moto tech, it's just old tech and doesn't matter. If someone does it to Apple, Apple sues to protect their IP. You get the idea. A most hypocritical bunch, that's for sure.
The whole "blah stole from blah", or "bleh is a copycat" argument is SO old these days. Hell, it was old practically the first time someone started muttering on about it.
See, people. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Every company out there takes good ideas from elsewhere, and implements them alongside their own good ideas. Apple does it. MS does it. Google does it. In the end, it means better products for us all. So why the hell do some of you even care who copied who?
Imagine if you were to take this attitude and extend it to other fields of interest. Like what if physics majors argued about who copied who.
"I don't know why Einstein is so well liked these days. All he did was copy ideas Newton came up with centuries ago. But hey. Not everyone can be clever and innovative OLOL. I hope his family sues the everliving crap out Einstein
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It's dumb. Shut up about copying. Just because you heard about some clever idea first from an Apple product doesn't mean it didn't exist elsewhere beforehand.
See, people. Nothing exists in a vacuum. Every company out there takes good ideas from elsewhere, and implements them alongside their own good ideas. Apple does it. MS does it. Google does it. In the end, it means better products for us all. So why the hell do some of you even care who copied who?
Imagine if you were to take this attitude and extend it to other fields of interest. Like what if physics majors argued about who copied who.
"I don't know why Einstein is so well liked these days. All he did was copy ideas Newton came up with centuries ago. But hey. Not everyone can be clever and innovative OLOL. I hope his family sues the everliving crap out Einstein
".It's dumb. Shut up about copying. Just because you heard about some clever idea first from an Apple product doesn't mean it didn't exist elsewhere beforehand.
Ditto. I'm really happy about this too. I never felt it's potential was fully realized on any device it shipped with. I'm looking forward to see what it's future holds.
Like I said before, and others have said too... marketing is only part of the puzzle. The product itself is a bigger reason it does well. And... the presence of other products on the market is something else they have to deal with.
Even if HP had the most amazing mind-blowing commercials... it was still competing against the iPad... a product that has been around for over a year.
What could HP have possibly said to make someone choose a TouchPad instead of the iPad... for the same price? What kind of marketing would that take?
I already said the Palm Pre was a record-setting phone... it sold 50,000 on its first day and 100,000 the first week.
While that was a great launch for Sprint... it's laughable compared to other phones and carriers.
And look what happened... Palm nearly went out of business... forcing themselves to be an acquisition target.
Do you still stick to your earlier comment? "Palm did pretty well when they had WebOS"
Palm never nearly went out of business. HP Touchpad is a great tablet. Marketing is what you need to sell anything. You can have the best product out there but you won't be able to sell it well without marketing.
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As an iOS [and Mac] developer and user, I must say webOS has a way better e.mail client and AppStore client than iOS 5. I own a couple TouchPads, and they beat the socks off any android tablet that I've tried. HP should have led the field in competing with Apple, as their product was the best alternative out there [i've found the TP to be more like the 1st gen iPad and that's not a bad thing considering how far a head start Apple had].
With webOS living on, and future hardware running it coming from HP, this can only be bad news for Google and good news for consumers. webOS is a really solid platform and hopefully this will inspire Apple to improve some of their apps [kinda like how Notification Center was inspired by Android].
This was a very smart move of HP's to do this. I think this worries Apple more than Android does, since Android truly is crap. iOS and webOS will be pushing each other innovation-wise and that's a cool thing!
Android isn't crap. It's a great OS, So is iOS, Windows Phone, and WebOS. They're all great.