Wall-of-replies time, as it's interesting
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Basically, what they're all saying is that if you brick your phone or lose your data using custom software, they're not necessarily going to fix it for free. Ditto if they figure out that you burned up your CPU overclocking it to a gazillion GHz.
Seems pretty fair to me, although ambiguous enough to give HTC leeway. It seems better than Apple's rule that jailbreaking voids the hardware warranty even if the problem was, say, a broken volume switch.
That is 100% fair.
What people have been claiming on that warranty thread though is that they've been just blindly turning phones around from repair if they have been {rooted/unlocked/S-off'd/whatever the term is, I've not learned them all yet}, regardless of the fault, saying that they'd have to replace the motherboard so they can put it back to a factory state.
Allegedly even though it's worded "may void" they are applying a rule of "will void"
True that Apple's stance on it is like that, however it's really easy to restore an iPhone back to the locked and unjailbroken state, with no evidence that it's ever been jailbroken. Unlike HTC's servers which keep a record of the event - it's this which worries me if they're taking a hard-line "if it's ever been rooted, forget your warranty" approach.
However it's not just them. A lot of the people in that thread are screaming about how they'll jump ship to Samsung, but:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1405682
They have the same policy.
Yes and no. Apple is always playing catch up these days. They just added features to the 4s and iOS 5 I have had on my Android phones for years. I miss the good ole days when they used to be innovative rather than just take features from others and put them in their products years later.
To be honest, Apple have always been behind on features. The first iPhone didn't even have MMS
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Where they innovate is in ease of use (and I have to admit, the iPhone is still far easier to use. I'd not want to give my HTC to my grandma as even I scratched my head with it here and there, but I think she'd cope fine with an iPhone)
Root is now available! Doesn't unlock your bootloader either so warranty isn't an issue. Reflashing the stock RUU removes the tampered banner also.
Ooh, now that's interesting. I'll have to do some reading up.
I don't have an HTC device but I've used sense and there are solutions to most your problems without root. I think just more time and experience with it and you'll be happier rather then more frustrated.
Yeah I sure hope so!
Hopefully the bugs will be ironed out,
Google will get their music store to the UK (until then I'll take the traditional music management approach)
I'll figure out the best way to back it up (though I do think iOS's "don't worry we'll back up everything to your computer or the cloud" system is very reassuring and simple)
I'll keep the "add app to home screen" option turned on, that way I lose nothing and gain an app menu
I'll get used to how things work
Apps and games - not having things like 8 Bit Rally, Final Fantasy, Pinball Fantasies etc is disappointing, I'll keep my iPhone still but it's still a separate device. However I think ICS will cause another big surge in Android popularity and it'll therefore continue getting better software. Only time will tell.
Sealed battery and stuff - well, I've not lost anything coming from the iPhone.
Yeah it's not so bad - I was just a bit frustrated with the bugs, and the lack of decent music options in the UK apart from iTunes.
Replying inside your quote as it's easier. Happy new device!
-multitasking menu was ruined. They should've left it at the ICS default.
Guessing this can be modded, although it'd require root
-makes browsing on the iPhone seem kinda lame
Agreed. It's a world of difference. Take a big site like dpreview.com and load it on both and place them side by side - it's clear which is the better browsing experience 🙂
-the default browser was annoying. But you can download Chrome. What's nice about Android is you can change how the device handles links, ect. You should be able to make things open in Chrome by default.
That's interesting, I thought the browser was just a re-badged Chrome. I may do the same. The default browser is so-so. I do like the text reflow when zooming in..
-HTC kept the swipe-to-remove-notification feature, which is GREAT. On the iPhone it completely sucks when you want to remove a notification. You're stuck either opening the notification or wiping all the notifications for that app.
I'd be darned, I've been opening the notifications to check my email etc just to clear them. Thanks for the tip!
Side note, I'm loving the home screen and the "scenes" system. I can have a work scene with all the widgets and icons relevant for there and have all my other apps hidden away in the main app menu - awesome. Love love love it.
He mentioned iOS's superior multitasking. LOL!
To be fair, Apple have innovated very well with the multitasking facilities they put in place IMO, to conserve system resources without you having to worry about closing things. It's very Apple - it takes the worry out of your hands and deals with things itself ("Just Works(TM)"), leaving you free to get on with your work. But this does also suffer from the lack of flexibility.
I think as for me, I've come full circle. I dumbed myself down to match my following of Apple, and now I'm coming back to a view of "I'm a big boy, I know what processes are and to go into the task manager and close things if my phone/OS is struggling - give me the flexibility and freedom"
I pretty much feel the same as you do. I'm waiting for the next iPhone before I jump ship to an Android device. There are just too many nicer phones on Android compared to the iphone 4s.
Apple better make a big hit or I feel many will move over to the competition.
Yeah I'm still a fan of Apple and I worry for them. They seem to be in this rut recently (not just with iPhone but with their computers) of mostly just making minor refinements every year. They need to keep the revolutions going!