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Discussion in 'Current Events' started by JamesMike, Sep 27, 2017.
His magazine is a part of history.
So are the implants he helped to create.
Sadness. He was a classy guy.
91 tho, hell of a run.
Live a life...single men dream of.
While I would never cherish his death, few people are single-handidly responsible for more damage to the psychology of Americans and their relationships than Hugh. Porn alters brain chemistry irreparably and is responsible for more broken relationships than any other single cause.
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So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.
Adam and his wife were both naked, and they felt no shame.
(Genesis 1:27 and 2:25)
Hugh made us think about the Bible, and great many other things.
""Each of us knows it all, and knows he knows it all--the rest, to a man, are fools and deluded." -Mark Twain"
Religious implications aside, I don’t expect others who don’t adhere to my theology to follow it. That’s asinine.
Naked =/= pornography. It’s much deeper and more nuanced that that, though I suspect you’re simply being coy.
Take 10 minutes to check out the website. It has no religious affiliation; it’s simply a compilation of peer-reviewed research and data on the effects of pornography on the brain, relationships, society, and culture. As Twain alluded to, sure we all believe we are right, and we’re all entitled to our own opinions, but we aren’t entitled to our own facts.
Or just be snarky and go about your day.
Or is it the fact that we are trained that boobs are bad and should always be covered up.
Nope, not the point. Boobs are definitely good.
Again, if you’re interested, take a look at the research. I’m not pushing ethics. I’m merely reporting the effects.
PlayBoy is not porn, just nudity, some story's, and lots of articles with biting political commentary.
The issue with porn is not the porn, but the lack of education to youngsters about the physiological and psychological feelings in sex and of course respect for the other person.
Pornography, voyeurism, will never go away as more or less it is a programed into humans to watch others (ie: soap operas), waste of time to try, so teaching understanding and emotional ramifications in youngsters (as early as 11) is the solution.
Let me add:
I have lived in countries here nudism is on billboards, have legal proposition, and other open sexuality, and have a general better more balanced social life than in USA.
Then again I lived in country that would stone you to death for having porn.
There are some parts of this I agree with and others I'd argue against, but it's mostly fair. Thank you for your honest and intellectual take.
All the best.
Pleasure discussing with you. I feel there is much we can concur on.
Never recall reading a Playboy in my younger days. Mayfair was top grab when I was a kid, pun not intended. Although, as a young lad then, we had an older adult buy one or we'd often run by the news cart and grab it and then run away before the newsstand attendant noticed or couldn't be bothered to run after us. We'd purposefully pick out stands attended by overweight attendants. Ah, the stupid stuff we did as kids. Don't think you can get Mayfair at a news stand now or if newsstands are still a thing. I haven't seen one since we moved to the US.
Mayfair did an issue of "busty redheads" in those days. Just one, which I presume drew the ire of people who read it, and by people I mean men and boys who gawked at the women inside. It was then I confirmed my beliefs that red hair was neither natural nor pleasant to look at. The feisty brunettes, on the other hand, oh my.
There was Penthouse, too. Though Penthouse had less visuals from what I remember and more articles. In the mid 90s, Maxim Magazine came out. It didn't have nudity, but it did have clothed provocative females. It was a magazine you could read and gain some insight as it discussed several topics and not necessarily sex. I'm not sure what it's like now. I think most who read Maxim in those days graduated to GQ.
A good friend of mine told me of a very casual one-on-one conversation he once had with Heffner in Ocho Rios, Jamaica way back in the early days, and he told me he was struck by the man's candor and down-to-earth-ness.
Perhaps somewhat in contrast to that, Hugh Heffner was certainly a trail-blazer with his 1954 premiere issue of Playboy featuring a, at the time unprecedented, very nude Marilyn Monroe. For better or worse, he definitely did help shift the goalposts of community standards vis-a-vis acceptable nudity and sexual morality.
Heff, sadly there are no 72 virgins waiting for you up there, but you're probably exhausted anyway, so RIP.
what did I just read...
red hair does not exist in nature? Is not pleasant to look at? Posed brunettes in still photographs are feisty? Feisty is a good thing, but redheads are not? So many questions; the mind boggles...
Melania hit a $25 winning ticket.
Mrs. Hefner won the real gold digger jackpot.
Was he? He was the original dirty old man. Multiple wives a fraction of his age, bleached hair, collagen lips, fake tits and fake tans. Barbie dolls, basically.
He bought Monroe's nudes from someone else and never asked her permission to publish them. Never even met her apparently. And now he's buried next to her.
Not much class on show there at all.
I wish I had the skill and parlance to write such things. Alas, this article sums up my thoughts quite well:
Speaking Ill of Hugh Hefner, NYT
"Hugh Hefner, gone to his reward at the age of 91, was a pornographer and chauvinist who got rich on masturbation, consumerism and the exploitation of women, aged into a leering grotesque in a captain’s hat, and died a pack rat in a decaying manse where porn blared during his pathetic orgies."
"Early Hef had a pipe and suit and a highbrow reference for every occasion; he even claimed to have a philosophy, that final refuge of the scoundrel. But late Hef was a lecherous, low-brow Peter Pan, playing at perpetual boyhood — ice cream for breakfast, pajamas all day — while bodyguards shooed male celebrities away from his paid harem and the skull grinned beneath his papery skin."