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They didn’t “get greedy”, those have been the fees all along. Not raised, but, for many, dropped to 15%. If anyone’s greed has grown, it would be those that want to raise prices on their customers at the same time that they’re wanting an additional $2 from each of their customers.
I'm confused here. Are you referring to Disney or is this comment referring to the $2 and $3 price increases from Apple over the past 2 years?

In Oct. 2022, Apple TV+ price went from $4.99 to $6.99 -- a 40% increase
In Oct. 2023, Apple TV+ price went from $6.99 to $9.99 -- a 43% increase
 
Even if they do, they $2 at least go to the company that actually provides the streaming service - and licensed/produced its content.

Not to yet another leeching middleman that just... you know, happens to be in a technical position to hold any app ransom by disabling their signing certificate.
Okay so then why raise the price for consumers if they’re already recouping those $2/mo from Apple? This means they’ll now make $4.30 more on ad plans (7.99 ->9.99) and $6.20 more on ad free (13.99->15.99) per month. This isn’t about them sticking it to Apple. Inflation for inflation’s sake.
 
They also only offered bundles for non-Apple subscriptions. I cancelled my Apple billed Hulu and was able to get the ad-free Duo plan on Disney+ (ad free) for only a couple bucks more! All I had to deal with was losing my entire watch history in Hulu 🥲 but I was more peeved I didn't know about the bundle for so long!
Curious. When I have cancelled Hulu in the past and then picked it up again, my watch history has remained. I expect it to be there if I resubscribe for $3/mo in December, too. But I first signed up with username/password years ago. Did subscribing through Apple mean you didn't have to sign in with those at all? How did you access your account on non-Apple devices?
 
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What do the other vendors charge? Is 30% industry standard or is it simply because Apple’s the largest?
It seems to be fairly standard, except when they are complaining about Apple. If they get busted, they come up with some low cost plan and use it until they get their way, then slowly force everyone back to paying 30%. Think of it as the Sweeney Rule.
 
But want access to apples user base lol

I now have to go to individual sites to cancel subscriptions vs a central location on my iPhone .

God forbid I forget my Hulu or Disney password. It’s so unnecessary for consumers
Show me one ad from apple promoting Disney plus or hulu
 
No….but what exactly is your argument here? That companies shouldn’t take a stand against apple’s BS?

Also it is technically cheaper since, you know….you don’t have to pay the 30%
My point is that if they scream about how they can save us money/better for consumers by going to their own system, that going to their own system should actually save us money or be better for us.

It is already established that it is less convenient (number of clicks, not a central hub, darkweb tactics to keep you from unsubscribing, etc). So even at cost parity, it is worse for consumers. So where does the 'better' part come from?

They sure didn't mind riding on the coattails of the success of the App store to get off the ground. Now they are big bad because Apple is making money while they are bleeding off through crap shows like "The Acolyte."

I would much rather put up with Apple BS that get routed through a retention expert who explains to me like I am an idiot for not realizing that the only time to cancel my subscription is at the stroke of midnight on the second Tuesday of the week and during a blood moon - and then 'accidentally' disconnects me. And MAJOR players pull crap like this. Somewhere on YouTube was a phone conversation where a guy spent 45 minutes trying to cancel service that he wasn't even getting, and the company not letting him do it. I could have made another one with SiriusXM.

Yeah, I don't miss that crap. So yes, having Apple go to bat for me and just turning that crap off works quite nicely.
 
So if they're no longer part of Apple's Video Partner Program, does that mean they'll be kicked out of the Apple TV app and off of the Watch next playlist? So Disney and Hulu will be like Netflix, in that no updates or recommendations are fed to the Apple TV app and the playlist?
 
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So if they're no longer part of Apple's Video Partner Program, does that mean they'll be kicked out of the Apple TV app and off of the Watch next playlist? So Disney and Hulu will be like Netflix, in that no updates or recommendations are fed to the Apple TV app and the playlist?
Netflix hasn't been part because they refused to share that info, not because they're not giving Apple revenue.
 
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The only reasonable thing to do is create a new account, get hulu or $3/month, and add Disney+ for $2/month. (with ads)
 
Good point, one can always activate for a month, watch all they like and then cancel until the next thing they’re interested in comes along.

This is true for any streaming service. You can binge everything interesting in a month and be done with the service for another year. Honestly, even the "interesting" stuff is not that interesting.

The most compelling thing I've seen in a very long time was the immersive Submerged short on the Vision Pro. The story itself was tight and well contained. It would make a great sequence in a longer movie. The immersive aspect of it made it especially powerful and emotional.
 
website price should be 30% lower right? or they just want the 30% $$$
Nope. Because as of 10/17/24 the cheapest plan with ads goes from 7.99 to 9.99, while the ad free jumped from 13.99 to 15.99. They’re taking their money back from Apple AND charging customers more.
Did they suddenly slash their rates by 30% (or even 15%) for those not paying through Apple?

Disney was going to raise plan prices even more but didn't because of the Apple commission savings. For example, Disney+ Basic was going to be increased to $11.99 but they only increased it to $9.99 instead. Disney+ Premium was going to be increased to $18.99 but they only increased it to $15.99 instead.

And yes, I am made this up to make a point that no one can necessarily say for sure how commission or other savings will or won’t impact pricing.
 
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Can't blame Disney. 30% fees are excessive. The proof is all that cash Apple is hoarding ($162.1 billion as of this week). If they don't need it for R&D or something else, they should declare a special dividend and give it back to the owners of the company (me and the other investors). I have the Disney/Hulu/ESPN bundle, and the more they pay Apple, the more they'll charge me.
 
Makes it better for anyone that may be avoiding supporting Disney. I APPROVE!
I recently canceled my D+ sub because of the password sharing crackdown. I don’t even share my password outside of my home, but it’s the principle of it. They have no justification for it other than more money. They made that change right before a price increase too. That would be like AT&T charging me extra for a family member’s cell phone line that doesn’t live with me. AT&T might actually have a better justification for doing so too, but they don’t do it.
 
But want access to apples user base lol

I now have to go to individual sites to cancel subscriptions vs a central location on my iPhone .

God forbid I forget my Hulu or Disney password. It’s so unnecessary for consumers
Apple’s user base? So anybody with an internet connection is Apple’s user base? Why should Apple (or Google or anyone else) get 30% of content that is available on multiple platforms?
 
What’s funny to me is the same people complaining about Apple’s 30% cut, which is industry standard, will also be complaining if these apps were removed from the App Store and you have to watch it in a browser if that’s even supported. If Apple isn’t getting a cut, then they aren’t obligated to keep apps that bring in a large sum of money from Apple’s customers on their App Store. It’s just complaining for the sake of complaining about Apple. Why even be here if that’s all you do? You don’t have to defend or support certain things, but I see some of the same people on every post with nothing good to say. Google, Microsoft and Samsung all have similar policies about what they take in commission but we don’t hear much about that.
I have a Roku smart TV. I watch all my streaming content there. I don’t pay Roku a dime. Should Roku be taking 30% of every subscription I have? Apple would never remove these apps from the App Store. Apple needs them more than they need Apple.
 
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Nope. Because as of 10/17/24 the cheapest plan with ads goes from 7.99 to 9.99, while the ad free jumped from 13.99 to 15.99. They’re taking their money back from Apple AND charging customers more.
Were they charging less if you signed up outside the app?
 
But want access to apples user base lol
Everyone wants access to Visa cardholders. They have to pay 3% to do that. Visa was still smacked by the US government for being a monopoly despite the fact it's quite easy for card holders to have multiple cards from different networks and for merchants to accept cards from additional networks.
 
It's not just a 30% fee, it's actually a 42.86% fee.

If something costs $10 with Apple's fee, it would cost only $7 without the fee.

If you are paying $10 instead of $7, you're actually paying 42.86% more, not 30% more.

People should study math.
 
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