Hulu may be working on Ipad app.


liquidsuns

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There's really no reason why they wouldn't make an app. I guess you could argue that Apple wouldn't let it in because it competes with the iTunes store, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, they have already allowed music subscription apps in.
 

Michael CM1

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Internet radio pretty much competes with the iTunes store, and I have Pandora. Apple isn't going to totally shut out competitors as long as it makes business sense. You haven't seen a total Google block even though Google is obviously taking a swipe at Apple with Android and Chrome.

A Hulu iPad app would be awesome. I'm still wishing for one on iPhone, even if it's WiFi only.
 

aarong50

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There's really no reason why they wouldn't make an app. I guess you could argue that Apple wouldn't let it in because it competes with the iTunes store, but, and correct me if I'm wrong, they have already allowed music subscription apps in.
I think banning something because it's a competitor is a legal issue of net neutrality. As long as it passes certain standards I don't think they can deny it - legally speaking.
 

master-ceo

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Apple NEEDS google/youtube, but they don't need hulu.

we'll see tho. as much hell as they gave boxee, idunno.
 

poppe

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This would be the killer app for me. I cancelled my cable service two years ago and watch my TV via Hulu and iTunes. If this was available, It'd make the tablet a must have for me since I am currently lugging my 17" from bedroom to kitchen, to living room, to balcony, etc.
 

t0mat0

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Will be interesting to see Hulu's numbers for visits via an app vs via Flash.

We've seen Vimeo say they'll do HTML5, Youtube's going HTML friendly...

Gruber has it right - Hulu isn't a Flash site, it's a video site.
 

mtnDewFTW

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Makes sense.
Actually, I think they might actually charge people a monthly fee to use it.
There was this other rumor floating around about hulu charging people to watch their content, even with the ads.

If that's the case, I'd be pretty disappointed.
 

sumzero

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Makes sense.
Actually, I think they might actually charge people a monthly fee to use it.
There was this other rumor floating around about hulu charging people to watch their content, even with the ads.

If that's the case, I'd be pretty disappointed.
if that were the case, i would never watch Hulu again.
 

The Phazer

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Hulu don't have the rights to deliver their content to mobiles, any more than they have to set top boxes.

Even if the iPad supported full Flash out of the box, Hulu wouldn't work because Hulu would have to block it, same as they try with Boxee on Apple TV.

There won't be a Hulu app coming.

However, there are awful lot of other TV providers out there who won't use HTML 5 due to content protection concerns (even YouTube's proto is missing an awful, awful lot of content. Vast swathes of YouTube aren't available in HTML5, because it's too easy to steam rip) or because it's simply another expensive encoding workflow to go around.

Phazer
 

marksman

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I think banning something because it's a competitor is a legal issue of net neutrality. As long as it passes certain standards I don't think they can deny it - legally speaking.
net neutrality has to do with access providers, not device providers.
 

marksman

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Hulu don't have the rights to deliver their content to mobiles, any more than they have to set top boxes.

Even if the iPad supported full Flash out of the box, Hulu wouldn't work because Hulu would have to block it, same as they try with Boxee on Apple TV.

There won't be a Hulu app coming.

However, there are awful lot of other TV providers out there who won't use HTML 5 due to content protection concerns (even YouTube's proto is missing an awful, awful lot of content. Vast swathes of YouTube aren't available in HTML5, because it's too easy to steam rip) or because it's simply another expensive encoding workflow to go around.

Phazer
Yeah it is very hard to rip content for flash. So hard mainstream publications brazenly tell you how to easily do it.
 

Jaro65

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I thought about maybe getting an iPad for my wife, but since she watches Hulu, it was a no-go. I think quite a few people would be happy if Hulu indeed made their content available on iPad!
 

The Phazer

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Yeah it is very hard to rip content for flash. So hard mainstream publications brazenly tell you how to easily do it.
Mainstream publications tell you to do a lot of stupid things - for example, distributing or importing (ie downloading from the internet) Applian in the UK is a criminal offense (not civil, actually criminal, with a five year jail term).

Phazer
 

sumzero

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Hulu don't have the rights to deliver their content to mobiles, any more than they have to set top boxes.

Even if the iPad supported full Flash out of the box, Hulu wouldn't work because Hulu would have to block it, same as they try with Boxee on Apple TV.

There won't be a Hulu app coming.

However, there are awful lot of other TV providers out there who won't use HTML 5 due to content protection concerns (even YouTube's proto is missing an awful, awful lot of content. Vast swathes of YouTube aren't available in HTML5, because it's too easy to steam rip) or because it's simply another expensive encoding workflow to go around.

Phazer
This isn't the first article i have read on the matter, as far as i have heard they don't want you to easily be able to watch it on your Television set, thus why you can't stream it on the PS3, they don't block laptops from viewing Hulu, which i can take anywhere an ipad can go.
 

mrgreen4242

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Hulu don't have the rights to deliver their content to mobiles, any more than they have to set top boxes.

Even if the iPad supported full Flash out of the box, Hulu wouldn't work because Hulu would have to block it, same as they try with Boxee on Apple TV.

There won't be a Hulu app coming.

However, there are awful lot of other TV providers out there who won't use HTML 5 due to content protection concerns (even YouTube's proto is missing an awful, awful lot of content. Vast swathes of YouTube aren't available in HTML5, because it's too easy to steam rip) or because it's simply another expensive encoding workflow to go around.

Phazer
This isn't the first article i have read on the matter, as far as i have heard they don't want you to easily be able to watch it on your Television set, thus why you can't stream it on the PS3, they don't block laptops from viewing Hulu, which i can take anywhere an ipad can go.
Hulu DOES block access from mobile handsets though. It will be interesting to see where content providers end up classifying the iPad. Is it a computer? It's about the size of a subnotebook/laptop, certainly not a handset. But it runs a mobile OS... so which is it, in regards to licensing agreements?

The thing about Hulu, though is that it's owned by the same companies who own the distribution rights to the content, so even if they decided the current rights don't allow for an iPad app, they could, with far less trouble than other companies offering similar services (Netflix, for example) simply modify their arrangement to allow that type of app.

I think we'll start to see some of the streaming sites come to the iPad/Phone sooner or later. It's only natural... and if they don't Apple might[/t] beat them to it. How long before they get a deal to offer some sort of unlimited streaming rentals via iTMS? If they get there first, it might be hard for other companies to get a foothold in that market later.
 

Chaos123x

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Thats great and all but I bet Apple will block the app off the appstore.


Plus i'd be surprised if I saw HULU on a device that is not a Computer (PC/Mac).

Ever try to use it on a PS3? It's blocked.
 

LethalWolfe

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I think we'll start to see some of the streaming sites come to the iPad/Phone sooner or later. It's only natural... and if they don't Apple might[/t] beat them to it. How long before they get a deal to offer some sort of unlimited streaming rentals via iTMS? If they get there first, it might be hard for other companies to get a foothold in that market later.

This folds back to one of the reasons Hulu exists in the first place though which is that the networks/movie studios don't like to be at the mercy of middlemen like Apple and Walmart. When movies were still a new thing the studios owned the theaters and I think they see this as another chance to sell directly to the customer. A big problem being is they all have to find a way to sell together because the customer doesn't want to have to go to each company's web site one at a time to look for content.


Lethal
 

bossxii

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Hulu DOES block access from mobile handsets though. It will be interesting to see where content providers end up classifying the iPad. Is it a computer? It's about the size of a subnotebook/laptop, certainly not a handset. But it runs a mobile OS... so which is it, in regards to licensing agreements?

The thing about Hulu, though is that it's owned by the same companies who own the distribution rights to the content, so even if they decided the current rights don't allow for an iPad app, they could, with far less trouble than other companies offering similar services (Netflix, for example) simply modify their arrangement to allow that type of app.

I think we'll start to see some of the streaming sites come to the iPad/Phone sooner or later. It's only natural... and if they don't Apple might[/t] beat them to it. How long before they get a deal to offer some sort of unlimited streaming rentals via iTMS? If they get there first, it might be hard for other companies to get a foothold in that market later.



I agree, I think Hulu is headed for a pay as you watch or monthly fee to watch system. If Apple can cut a deal to provide an all you can watch TV setup where you pay say $19.99/mo or even $29.99/mo I would be one of the first to dump off a major portion of my cable bill if not all together. I rarely find a show I watch that isn't on iTunes. Hulu still lacks some shows and the fact they can only keep say the last 5 aired shows on vs the entire season would be reason enough for me to go the way of iTunes will access of all seasons and all episodes.
 

Chaos123x

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I agree, I think Hulu is headed for a pay as you watch or monthly fee to watch system. If Apple can cut a deal to provide an all you can watch TV setup where you pay say $19.99/mo or even $29.99/mo I would be one of the first to dump off a major portion of my cable bill if not all together. I rarely find a show I watch that isn't on iTunes. Hulu still lacks some shows and the fact they can only keep say the last 5 aired shows on vs the entire season would be reason enough for me to go the way of iTunes will access of all seasons and all episodes.
That would be great.

But in order to get my internet from Comcast you have to have at least basic cable TV, otherwise no internet. So can't work for me cause Comcast is the only provider in my apartment complex.
 

mrgreen4242

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This folds back to one of the reasons Hulu exists in the first place though which is that the networks/movie studios don't like to be at the mercy of middlemen like Apple and Walmart. When movies were still a new thing the studios owned the theaters and I think they see this as another chance to sell directly to the customer. A big problem being is they all have to find a way to sell together because the customer doesn't want to have to go to each company's web site one at a time to look for content.


Lethal
Well, Hulu is a partnership with NBC and Fox at the moment, so it's possible they could pick up a third partner, at least for mobile/device distribution, like ABC or CBS and be pretty much the market, not just a market leader.

The proposals I've seen for charging for Hulu are pretty reasonable. One that I thought was pretty decent was access to the 5 newest episodes of shows and $5 per month for access to the rest of the series. For some shows like SNL or talk shows they could offer the most current single episode plus clips of older shows. I would pay that IF it included access via the iPad/iPod/iPhone (can we just call these all iDevices as a category from now on?), even WiFi only.

Time will tell. Of course, if Netflix gets the go ahead to do an Instant Watch app for the iPad (again, is it a computer or a mobile device? If it is grouped with laptops, then it's just a technical hurdle) then I lose a large amount of desire for Hulu or even an iTMS subscription service. They get so much TV on DVD content on Instant Watch that I really don't need TV service (indeed, I don't have any cable/satellite/TV antenna anymore).
 

tjp888

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Letting the iPad, or even an iPhone/iTouch access Hulu would be an end run around the iTunes Store. This would mean Apple would have to give up some control to the end user. There's no way Apple will allow this.
It's all about steering users to purchasing media.
 

bossxii

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That would be great.

But in order to get my internet from Comcast you have to have at least basic cable TV, otherwise no internet. So can't work for me cause Comcast is the only provider in my apartment complex.
Ouch :( That sucks. I actually have Direct TV and Cable internet so they don't force me into a package deal.