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Is a new iMac a definite must-buy for me?

  • Yes, the purchase would be well-advised.

    Votes: 15 50.0%
  • Yes, but you needn't buy the top-tier 27".

    Votes: 12 40.0%
  • No, there... [well, I'm not sure what would go here, but I'd appreciate insights

    Votes: 3 10.0%

  • Total voters
    30
Okay, lastly, per Apple's highly imaginative "If It's A Cable Or An Adapter, It's Twenty-Nine Dollars" pricing policy, which 29.00 cable will I need for migrating the 2007's content to the 2015?
(Or would you recommend using a program like Carbon Copy Cloner to copy everything to my eternal Lacie and then connect the Lacie to the 2015?)
 
I don't think there is a common connector between the iMacs that you could use for Target Disk Mode ... It might be easiest to use an external drive as an in-between. You could also use Apple's built in assistant: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT204350

I personally was most drawn by the specc'd out 4GHz processor. Video transcoding is a bottomless pit for performance. Any way you slice it, enjoy!
 
Perhaps thunderbolt to Firewire-800.

Dare I ask howe this imac was originally specced. What sort of upgrades did you do?
 
Perhaps thunderbolt to Firewire-800.

Dare I ask howe this imac was originally specced. What sort of upgrades did you do?
jerwin, your question might be over my head. Help me understand.

Also, I just reread this thread and all the great replies I've received, and fathergil's spec suggestions seem very sound.
 
Okay, lastly, per Apple's highly imaginative "If It's A Cable Or An Adapter, It's Twenty-Nine Dollars" pricing policy, which 29.00 cable will I need for migrating the 2007's content to the 2015?
(Or would you recommend using a program like Carbon Copy Cloner to copy everything to my eternal Lacie and then connect the Lacie to the 2015?)
There are a million different ways/opinions on how to do this. My 2 cents is that you should set up your new iMac from scratch with fresh user account, install all your software, etc.

Then copy over your the data from your old user folders into their respective new user folders (e.g. Documents, Movies, Photos, Music, etc.). You can either do this over a network connection by sharing folders, or generally faster and more straight forward to use an intermediate external drive.

I recommend this way because you've accumulated 8 years of cruft scattered throughout the system (or whenever you last did a clean install), and IMHO it's a good idea just to start with a clean slate. And personally I trust myself to make sure everything (and only what) I want migrates over more than I trust migration assistant. It really doesn't take very long these days with so much data in the cloud that's just a matter of signing in (e.g. mail, dropbox, evernote, etc.)

But there's nothing "wrong" about migration assistant or any number of other ways that might be suggested.
 
There are a million different ways/opinions on how to do this. My 2 cents is that you should set up your new iMac from scratch with fresh user account, install all your software, etc.

Then copy over your the data from your old user folders into their respective new user folders (e.g. Documents, Movies, Photos, Music, etc.). You can either do this over a network connection by sharing folders, or generally faster and more straight forward to use an intermediate external drive.

I recommend this way because you've accumulated 8 years of cruft scattered throughout the system (or whenever you last did a clean install), and IMHO it's a good idea just to start with a clean slate. And personally I trust myself to make sure everything (and only what) I want migrates over more than I trust migration assistant. It really doesn't take very long these days with so much data in the cloud that's just a matter of signing in (e.g. mail, dropbox, evernote, etc.)

But there's nothing "wrong" about migration assistant or any number of other ways that might be suggested.

Thank you.
It's great that we have so many options these days.
In regard to your suggestion re: a new user account, I like the idea of stating anew, but if I change the user account, will that not preclude my ability to download Logic Pro upgrades, et cetera, from my current AppStore account?
 
Thank you.
It's great that we have so many options these days.
In regard to your suggestion re: a new user account, I like the idea of stating anew, but if I change the user account, will that not preclude my ability to download Logic Pro upgrades, et cetera, from my current AppStore account?
I just meant start from scratch. When you first turn on the new iMac, it will ask you to set up a new user account on the iMac... you can either use your iCloud account or not, that's up to you.

If you use your iCloud account, it will use those credentials for logging into your computer. If you don't, then you pick whatever username/password you want, and you sign into your iCloud account in system preferences. There's no difference in features - some people just want to use the same credentials for both their local user account and their iCloud account.

When your first sign into the Mac App store, it will ask for your Apple account credentials and use those for installing software and updates.
 
I just meant start from scratch. When you first turn on the new iMac, it will ask you to set up a new user account on the iMac... you can either use your iCloud account or not, that's up to you.

If you use your iCloud account, it will use those credentials for logging into your computer. If you don't, then you pick whatever username/password you want, and you sign into your iCloud account in system preferences. There's no difference in features - some people just want to use the same credentials for both their local user account and their iCloud account.

When your first sign into the Mac App store, it will ask for your Apple account credentials and use those for installing software and updates.

Thank you for the clarification. Truly.
 
It's been about 4 years since I updated my Mac, but last time I was able to use an ethernet cable to transfer files between the two using migration assistant. A $3 ethernet cable sounds better to me then a $29 adapter. lol

Keep in mind this was on 10.7 Lion, so things may have changed.
 
jerwin, your question might be over my head. Help me understand.

Also, I just reread this thread and all the great replies I've received, and fathergil's spec suggestions seem very sound.

I upgraded a 2009 era imac-- it was getting long in the tooth. However, it was essentially the base model (2.66 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 9400M, 20 inch monitor, 8 GB Ram) with no upgrades other than memory. I didn't crack the case to install an SSD, and the 9400M was obsolete for games a couple of years ago (as in "will not run")

So, I was mildly curious as to how you managed to keep a 2007 imac usable.

The Thunderbolt to Firewire connector would bridge the Thunderbolt on the imac '15 to the firewire on the imac '07 (perhaps using target disc mode) Though whether Firewire 800 is faster the gigabit eithernet is an open question.
 
I upgraded a 2009 era imac-- it was getting long in the tooth. However, it was essentially the base model (2.66 Ghz Core 2 Duo, 9400M, 20 inch monitor, 8 GB Ram) with no upgrades other than memory. I didn't crack the case to install an SSD, and the 9400M was obsolete for games a couple of years ago (as in "will not run")

So, I was mildly curious as to how you managed to keep a 2007 imac usable.

The Thunderbolt to Firewire connector would bridge the Thunderbolt on the imac '15 to the firewire on the imac '07 (perhaps using target disc mode) Though whether Firewire 800 is faster the gigabit eithernet is an open question.

Your wonderment at my 2007's extended life underscores in a pronounced way how justified would be the extravagance of this new purchase. (I know, logically, that it would not be an extravagance. Still I have not yet allowed myself to click the button that would finalize my order.) But it has been a struggle, and I have been worried as of late that one of these mornings, I will press the "on" button, and there will be no response.
 
Uh-oh, I thought of something else ::ducks::. My thinking has always been that one should never buy the extra warranty protection a vendor offers when one buys their product, that it's just a way for a vendor to maximize profits.
But the Apple Protection Plan...should I think of it differently? Should I avail myself to this particular exploitation for the peace of mind it might offer?

Applecare is no different in principle than any other extended warranty. I have never purchased extended coverage on anything - computers to home appliances. I bank on the trend that typically, products if they fail, they do so quickly when the purchase warranty is in place. Has worked for me without trouble.
 
I like long computer cycles. My family had our eMac as their main machine from 2004-mid 2010, and I used a different email from 2004-mid 2011.
 
Applecare is no different in principle than any other extended warranty. I have never purchased extended coverage on anything - computers to home appliances. I bank on the trend that typically, products if they fail, they do so quickly when the purchase warranty is in place. Has worked for me without trouble.
You have been lucky so far. What you describe, and what your strategy is based on, is just one type of hardware problems: the dead-on-arrival or severly-screwed-up-that-failure-is-imminent.

However, you might guess that there is a more subtle category: small-but-constant-erosion-and-strain, leading to a failure in 1-x years. The iMacs have been known to suffer from thermal breakdowns due to this slowly-deteriorating effect. AppleCare addresses this type (up to 3 years) and as at least one of my former iMacs suffered from this, I suggest to go with AppleCare nowadays - esp. since the heat issues of the RiMac V1
 
You have been lucky so far. What you describe, and what your strategy is based on, is just one type of hardware problems: the dead-on-arrival or severly-screwed-up-that-failure-is-imminent.

However, you might guess that there is a more subtle category: small-but-constant-erosion-and-strain, leading to a failure in 1-x years. The iMacs have been known to suffer from thermal breakdowns due to this slowly-deteriorating effect. AppleCare addresses this type (up to 3 years) and as at least one of my former iMacs suffered from this, I suggest to go with AppleCare nowadays - esp. since the heat issues of the RiMac V1

That's true. My luck may run out someday. But the money saved from not buying extended warranties for 20 years will be more than enough to self ensure IF I were to encounter a failure in the future.
 
Just set up the new iMac a few hours ago. (It arrived last week, but I was too busy--and too computer-dependent--to invest time in setting up a new computer.)
I must admit that the first retina display graphics reveal--the default desktop photo--did make me go "Wow."
Setup went well. (I set up Migration Assistant, went running, came back, all was completed.) And though I had worried that some apps would be rendered non-useable, everything I've tested thus far (keywords: thus far) is operating just as it had before--only faster.
Might be selling the Magic Mouse. (I don't see the magic, and, at the moment, I'm using a basic, wired Microsoft mouse in its stead.
Bottom line, though, is that I thank everyone who helped me in my decision to purchase this iMac.
 
I don't see the magic

Maybe I'm taking your complaint too literally, but the top surface of the mouse is sort of like a trackpad you can use gestures with-- scrolling, flipping, etc. That's the "magic"-- sufficiently advanced technology, anyway.
 
No, that's a good reply. I was just thinking that I should try 'tapping in to" that "gestures stuff." I've never liked trackpads, though--so that's one thing--two is that the mouse seems uncomfortable, and three is that the only thing that went even mildly awry during setup was that the mouse froze at the top of the screen at the end of the migration. (But that might have been because migration changed System Preferences so that this wired mouse was the default.
I'll give MM another chance.
 
I gave MM another chance, but I still dislike it. A lot. I also hate the keyboard. The lack of a backlight is, for someone like me, nearly merciless. But the computer...the computer I like.
 
I like long computer cycles. My family had our eMac as their main machine from 2004-mid 2010, and I used a different email from 2004-mid 2011.
I'm hoping that with an iMac purchase of my own, I too can enjoy long cycles. My 2009 Mac Mini is still chugging along (upgraded ram/SSD), but my 2012 rMBP is not doing as well. I'll have to replace the battery shortly and I wonder if I'll be better off with a desktop instead.
 
I'm hoping that with an iMac purchase of my own, I too can enjoy long cycles. My 2009 Mac Mini is still chugging along (upgraded ram/SSD), but my 2012 rMBP is not doing as well. I'll have to replace the battery shortly and I wonder if I'll be better off with a desktop instead.

As a student entering college in the next year, I was hoping to buy a spec'ed out rMBP and use it for 4-5 years. After only 3 years you need to replace the battery doesn't give me much hope.
 
Have you considered the option of buying a used iMac? Much money can be saved, and a warranty can be had when purchasing such from a reputable dealer. I've taken this route twice (2006 iMac C2D, 2011 iMac Core i7) and am pleased with the results, as is my wallet. I'd recommend an iMac which can run OS/X 10.11 El Capitan and which has user upgradable RAM, which I think is every iMac introduced from mid 2007 through 2011. (Check http://www.everymac.com/ for details.)
 
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