Ha, I actually do the same. The only problem is, I’m a little less organized with the cards. So some might be in this camera bag or that camera bag, or my iPad sleeve.
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Hundreds of Unique iPods From Karl Lagerfeld's Collection Now on Auction
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At this point in a streaming music world, there's relatively few people who could fill a 4000 gigabyte iPod, let alone a 256gb one.
Yes, there are DJs and music aficionados/collectors who meticulously "hoard and store" their digital tracks, but it's a tiny niche. Apple axing the Classic way back in September 2014 was them saying "yeah, not enough are buying this to make it worth making." And that was 10 years ago already.
The number of people who "own music" has declined precipitously this past decade. Most people now just toss Spotify or Apple or Google a few bones and have access as long as they pay the monthly sub.
HobeSoundDarryl
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All fine opinions, written with such conviction, hopefully backed by facts instead of just your own speculation and biases.
Nevertheless, I'd LOVE to buy the product described while I have NO interest in the alternative offered. I could be alone in such a desire but it doesn't change my desire. Build me one and money will depart my wallet. Don't and the money stays in wallet. If that personal opinion bugs anyone, don't worry: I do NOT expect Apple to build one.
Just yesterday, I collected a Disk Drive from a friend who borrowed it to import their entire CD collection into Music... and then delighted in the ability to stream their own music through AppleTV to their sound system... and then much more delighted in the discovery that they could make playlists and sync them to their iDevices so they would NOT need to pay forever rent for Spotify and/or AM anymore. All of their favorite music is now on device, such that even if they are in places with no wifi/cellular (such as most commercial flights), they can enjoy listening to their own favorite music.
I've never paid for music streaming, instead having my entire CD collection in Music, synched to my own devices and playable through the home sound system too. I don't feel like I'm missing a thing (free Pandora, abundant free radio streams and similar are available for any "new music discovery" itches). That iPod Classic that is still kicking is synched from the very same library with many of my favorite playlists, slotted into the car as a large music jukebox and doesn't burn a byte of cellular, burn a watt of iDevice battery, nor lose the connection and thus a music stream when I'm too remote or driving through tunnels, etc.
I'll grant that perhaps "most" have adopted a forever renter model for music. If so, good for them (I guess). But I don't think the number who chooses NOT to be on that expense hook forever is an insignificant quantity. However, that's me speculating per my own biases. Perhaps, it's down to just that friend & I now???
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As an aside, you can convert old iPods to flash. There's a track limit due to the iPod RAM size, which changes depending on the model. I have a ton of concerts on about 8-10 iPod flash.
And amazingly enough you can still buy batteries for them on eBay and amazon.
And amazingly enough you can still buy batteries for them on eBay and amazon.
I converted my 4th Gen click wheel iPod to flash about a year ago, and gave it a fresh battery. It worked fine but I ultimately couldn't find much use for it and sold it. Kinda felt bad about since I had it since 2004, but I don't like collecting things. Ah well.
Same for me ... I still have mine and would use it if it had bluetooth for AirPods ...
This is literally all under the assumption that the iPhone or iPod is just a hard drive.
It’s not.
Even outside of all of the extra hardware that’s not a hard drive or SSD, there’s software that has to be paid for as well.
As far as I can tell, there are no mainstream phones or tablets or media players that even come anywhere close to 4TB.
Even the MacBook Air Maxes out at two.
For simple iPod functionality, the A15 is fine. Even the A12 is still fine.
Massive iOS slowdowns that make the device downright unusable don’t really happen anymore. iOS 9 on the 4S was the last time I remember there being widespread and consistent complaints about performance issues.
HobeSoundDarryl
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Correct it's not. But most of an iPod was hard drive. One can take iPod Classic now and replace the dead platter with flash. And that's almost the idea here, except Apple does it as a sentimental, special edition, offered as a brand new product.
And the pricing I offered built in ABUNDANT buffer for "the rest" beyond the drive. For example,
$499 suggested MSRP
-$200 full retail, quantity 1 price for 4TB
Leaves $299 for "the rest" plus margin.
What is Apple's general margin target these days? Towards 50%. Let's just go for it here. If they want half of $500, or $250 to be profit on this device, that leaves $50 to cover "the rest" IF they opt to pay full retail for the storage. Of course they would not. I won't bother to guess how much below $200 they could get off-the-shelf m.2 for in Apple volume, but the point is there is plenty of buffer in my guess at that price to get them a full 50% margin.
And it's the same with my guesses at Apple prices for a 1TB & 2TB variant.
For software, I proposed using the same software- the last gen of original iPod software I'm still using right now. Since hackers show they can slug in Flash in place of Platter storage easily enough, that should be no heavy burden for Apple to do too.
Just because such products don't exist doesn't mean they can't exist. My original iPod had only 5GB. At the time, I think someone made a similar product with 10GB. If I applied that kind of thinking, "no more than 10GB can be possible..." and yet soon there were iPods for sale breaking 100GB. "1000 songs in your pocket became 2000 songs, became 3000 songs, etc. I think the one I still use has north of 5000 songs on it.
I can buy little m.2 cases barely bigger than the m.2 sticks and put 8TB sticks in them. Make such a case just a bit bigger than that to house the tech guts, battery and some kind of basic LCD screen for iPod OS and there's an 8TB iPod in our pockets if desired.
It's perfectly fine that you are not interested in such a product... but I would be. It's perfectly fine that you would rather anyone interested buy an existing Apple product like an old phone... but I'm not interested in a phone. Should Apple build such a thing, nothing would be forced upon you. Others just might get something they would want... and actually buy. I'd buy what I've described and Apple could take a full 50% profit on it. I have zero interest in buying a relatively tiny storage phone as substitute.
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maybe it's just me and the bling-infested iPod might be unique, but it is beyond tasteless
I heard SSDs start to lose their memory in about 5 years of inactivity and the same goes for SD cards. Make sure you "run" them from time to time by accessing and writing/overwriting something to them. Pictures are priceless!
For what it's worth, it took me about $100 to turn a BEAT, thrifted 5th gen into a fully-working SD-based unit.
HobeSoundDarryl
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I'm probably on that SAME train when the one I have conks... as I have ZERO expectations of Apple making a new one as described in prior threads. But I'd love to see one made as described instead of having to hack the one I have.
In another life, I was Karl Lagerfeld's iPod nanny. I meticulously stoned each one with the finest Swarovski crystals using tiny little tweezers and Elmer's glue, then loaded them up with Kylie Minogue.
(Please ignore this I'm just in a weird mood right now.)
(Please ignore this I'm just in a weird mood right now.)
As @Lounge vibes 05 said, that’s the Apple Watch: straps to your wrist, does offline syncing, adds streaming on the gym WiFi or cellular outside, waterproof for the pool or shower, and arguing with current Siri is still slightly easier than using a screen while jolting around. If you prefer, you can think of it as an evolutionary branch of the iPod nano that diverged after the 6th generation. 😉
4TB is ridiculous, 2TB would be more than enough, even if you stored EVERYTHING Apple Lossless.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Yes, but old iPod could also be portable storage too. I transferred many a Mac file on the iPod Classic instead of carrying another external storage device.
But yes, I might be drawn to an Apple-priced 2TB iPod SE for about $249.
Actually, m.2 being standard, I’d be tempted to cheap out on the base and then buy and install up to 8TB myself. 8TB was available just before Christmas for only $550… now $650… just like people STILL hack the classic and install more than whatever it shipped with by Apple.
But yes, I might be drawn to an Apple-priced 2TB iPod SE for about $249.
Actually, m.2 being standard, I’d be tempted to cheap out on the base and then buy and install up to 8TB myself. 8TB was available just before Christmas for only $550… now $650… just like people STILL hack the classic and install more than whatever it shipped with by Apple.
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Each iPod is meticulously loaded with curated music.
How does the meticulous loading process differ from regular loading? Inquiring minds want to know.
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I really love my 7th Gen iPod Nano for trail running and the gym. Not sure what I'm going to do when it dies, since any replacements won't have much life left on them.
All the best-sounding earbuds (like the Shure SE 500 series) are wired, so an Apple Watch isn't a good substitute. [And yes, even on a Nano, you can tell the difference in sound quality.] Plus sometimes you don't want to mess with a BT connection.
I'd be happy to buy a Walkman, but currently everything is synced with my iTunes library, so I'd need to convert it all, which would be a PITA given the DRM issues.
All the best-sounding earbuds (like the Shure SE 500 series) are wired, so an Apple Watch isn't a good substitute. [And yes, even on a Nano, you can tell the difference in sound quality.] Plus sometimes you don't want to mess with a BT connection.
I'd be happy to buy a Walkman, but currently everything is synced with my iTunes library, so I'd need to convert it all, which would be a PITA given the DRM issues.
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Just imagine if they were releasing those chrome metallic colors on iPhones. I'll go with the orange. 🤌❤️