So my iPod went dead, I think around January, and I just put it in a bin. Today lookin around I found a little document that says how to fix it. All I did was take it apart and disconnect the battery, and HD, and then put it back together, put it in my dock, and after a minute or two the little Apple popped up! I had nothin' to lose since it's past warranty. This rocks! If you're wonderin' it was a 4th gen 40 GB.