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Damn it looks cool. Any one recommend it? Also how much battey charge does it hold?
 
The company doesn't have a license and people are surprised Apple is suing them for using their technology? It's irrelevant if they paid Apple to buy them, they did not pay Apple to resell them. Any fifth grader would know this is clearly infringing on Apple's patent... open and shut.
 
Apple needs to protect its IP. Figure out what the licensing fee is, pay it, and then go make great products. Same as Belkin and everyone else.

Apple doesn't license it. Its been stated many times already. This is just a bum move by Apple. Either way Apple is getting paid.
 
If we buy the cable now, can we get the battery later on at a discounted price as the cable is all i can get since i'm saving for the apple care warranty.
 
Apple doesn't even provide functionality anywhere close to this or this cool. I've been wanting an external battery forever and just now heard of HyperMac through today's news.

Apple's lockdown on their magsafe adapter is truly frakking annoying. They're hurting their users, not helping them.

I didn't see anywhere in the article that stated that Apple didn't want the company to sell the plug. The article stated that HyperMac didn't license the technology.

What a powerhungy move by Apple COnsumer Electronics. I wloud understand if they were making the connectors themselves, but they are buying APPLE MADE power AD/DC converters and using these connectors. I'm sure the Kool-aid crowd will overlook this and say how great this is of Apple to keep counterfeits off the market, not even releasing that they were just using Apple made products.

I was waiting for a post like yours. The usual "It's Apple's fault" and anyone who doesn't agree with you is drinking the kool aid. :rolleyes:
 
...possible reason for the suit

If Apple allowed HyperMac to use the power cords it could open the door for Dell / HP to use them as well.
 
Or they could just pay Apple for a license to use the MagSafe connector.

It's not licensable technology. Apple should make an exception in this case, though, since they don't sell external batteries. They're screwing their own customers. It's not like HyperMac is putting the connector into a competing laptop. There should be a way to find an agreement between the two companies.
 
Apple doesn't want to. They want you to buy your charger from them.

Indeed. If Apple really wanted to make people happy they would make the lead that contains the magsafe adaptor removable as they do with the lead that goes to the power mains. That way if the end broke/wire wore you would be able to just change the lead. Instead when (and I do mean when because it is just a matter of time) the connector breaks you need to buy a whole new power supply.

No one else does it that way either I realise, but Apple is not supposed to do things like everyone else.

Oh and if that were the case - then you would be able to use that lead cable to hook up to the HyperMac unit....
 
buy-batteries.com Mac Rumors Ad

Funny, after reading the headline on the Mac Rumors home page. I saw a Google Ad for buy-batteries.com that says "Don't buy Apple's Mag Safe"
They also have a knock off Mag Safe for sale. Are they gonna get sued next?
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It's sad that apple comes in and kills off companies innovative products like this without offering up a path to license their technology. This was a cool use of MagSafe, and apple should encourage it with proper licensing. The problem is, apple doesn't offer a MagSafe licensing option, so companies have to innovate around apple, and then get slapped by legal. Come on apple! Play nice!
 
make sure to order a few more once I get to the studio - the 60Wh is fantastic
 
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Damn it looks cool. Any one recommend it? Also how much battey charge does it hold?

See below for the info. The specs are at their site (see the article for the link).

Apple doesn't license it. Its been stated many times already. This is just a bum move by Apple. Either way Apple is getting paid.

Bum move? Whose device is being sold as though it's their own?

It's not licensable technology. Apple should make an exception in this case, though, since they don't sell external batteries. They're screwing their own customers. It's not like HyperMac is putting the connector into a competing laptop. There should be a way to find an agreement between the two companies.

The Sanho ad states:
If you wish to get the world's ONLY external battery and car charger solution that works with ALL MacBook, MacBook Air and MacBook Pro (supports dual voltage) as well as the iPad, iPhone 3/3GS/4, iPod and all other USB devices, NOW is the time.

Look up the ad, and see what these devices cost. For that you could buy a WIN laptop.
 

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If Apple allowed HyperMac to use the power cords it could open the door for Dell / HP to use them as well.

Never in a million years would that happen. The chargers cost $80 from Apple apiece, Dell's profit margins are ~15% on a $500 computer, or $75. Dell would have to take a $5 loss on each computer sold, just to offer the magsafe adapter, nevermind any R&D costs.

Hypermac sells their batteries for between $200-$500, $80 of which ends up going to Apple.


Bum move? Whose device is being sold as though it's their own?
But the first sale doctrine prevents any companies from controlling how their physical product is used, after it is purchased. This is why used bookstores exist, and it is why HyperMac should be allowed to keep doing what they're doing.
 
Apple knows people don't need external batteries for their MacBooks. If they did, Apple would have provided these. :p
 
Guess what.... APPLE DOES GET PAID. The connectors are made by Apple, and purchased from Apple. Given that Apple is paid for the purchase of the AC/DC converter, how exactly can you justify saying Apple is not get compensated here? You would have a point if the connecters were counterfeit; by the company buys them FROM APPLE and removes the cord and uses this.

exactly!

and worse Apple is blocking recycling of parts here that would otherwise end up in a landfill as trash.
 
Well, I did my part for them...

Since I work from home in Albuquerque and I do like to go outside and work a bit, I just went ahead and bought one. I'd been thinking about it for a while and since Apple is being a dork about it, I figure I would patronize a company making a good product before they go away.

I figure with this and my MiFi, as long as there is a cell tower in the boonies, I can work in peace.

I just bought the largest power brick they have and have a MBP, so if it runs it for 6 to 8 hours, I'll be ecstatic.
 
But the first sale doctrine prevents any companies from controlling how their physical product is used, after it is purchased. This is why used bookstores exist, and it is why HyperMac should be allowed to keep doing what they're doing.

The first sale doctrine applies to copyright, and it only applies to reselling the original, unmodified physical object, and not to distributing "derivative works".

Here, we're talking about patents. Does the same doctrine really apply? (I don't think so, but I'd love to be shown otherwise.)
 
Apple may own the idea for this product and would be right to block would-be imitations, but Apple (or anyone else) does not physically sell a given cable and then a previous owner expects to have some say over what happens with the given cable. Sorry, that is not reality. Imagine the outrage if a company pulled this power-grabbing stunt with a commonly used interface cable.

There is a difference when it comes to software because software is licensed rather than sold. However, Apple still seems like they want to control your Mac after you buy it. Now, I could see taking a T6 or T8 to a hard disk as a good reason to void it, but modifying your system should not void the warranty if you return it to factory specifications before bringing it in for service.
 
Even if Apple allowed sales of these, they would be unavailable.

I tried ordering these in July and they were backordered by about a month, which led to my decision in buying an iPad for my long trip to China.
 
Never knew about these

I never knew about these eternal battery packs before. Cool product but seem a little over priced for a battery and some charging logic(if it has any at all).
 
Steve was bullied in HS now he's just returning the favor!
If Apple doesn't change how it handles these types of small issues, it is going to earn a reputation as a big corporate bully. I find the whole matter rather ironic since Apple has always insisted on thinking differently from the rest of corporate America when it comes to their products and how they do business. Yet, it seems that these exact kinds of tactics are exactly what a power hungry corporation with a dried up bin of marketable ideas would resort to to stay afloat.
 
Apple may own the idea for this product and would be right to block would-be imitations, but Apple (or anyone else) does not physically sell a given cable and then a previous owner expects to have some say over what happens with the given cable. Sorry, that is not reality. Imagine the outrage if a company pulled this power-grabbing stunt with a commonly used interface cable.
Commonly used interface cables generally aren't controlled by any one company, but rather are overseen by an industry-wide consortium, with clearly published requirements to file an application for permission to use them, and an unbiased review process to grant such permission regardless of any individual companies' competitive interests.

There is a difference when it comes to software because software is licensed rather than sold. However, Apple still seems like they want to control your Mac after you buy it. Now, I could see taking a T6 or T8 to a hard disk as a good reason to void it, but modifying your system should not void the warranty if you return it to factory specifications before bringing it in for service.

Woah there! Apple's present action is against the manufacturer of the cable, not against the individual end-users of the cable. Accusations of warranty violations against end users haven't been brought up at all in this news article.

Apple owns the intellectual property (patent) surrounding the physical implementation of the MagSafe connector, and so far, they have never sold or licensed permission to use this technology to anybody else. Therefore, Apple is the only manufacturer which has permission to manufacture and sell cables based upon this technology.

There is an argument to be made (of debatable quality) that this company's policy of recycling existing cables instead of manufacturing them brand new might be a loophole which could exempt them from being accused of infringing on Apple's patented technology.

But, provided Apple is willing to sit down and actually negotiate, it would probably be easier and cheaper for the manufacturer to arrive at a negotiated settlement rather than try to fight it out in court.
 
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