I am really beginning to actively loath the new iTunes (12.2.2.25)

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  1. PinkyMacGodess, Aug 28, 2015
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    PinkyMacGodess macrumors 68040

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    I have been working on rebuilding my Mac Mini media server. I had a drive that was getting unreliable, and so I dove in and replaced both drives, and have been loading the media back on for like two days (not continuous).

    And, I've gotten to the point of trying to make sure that everything is loaded, and that's where it,s getting nasty...

    I 'massaged' my iTunes for the source system, by removing superfluous notes in the titles, and such, and reorganizing things to make more sense. Like removing non-compilation albums from the compilation group.

    So I take a look at the total item counts between source and destination, and I'm 70 songs short. Odd...

    So I embark on trying to tell what tracks, or albums, are missing.

    So far, not easy.

    Best way I can do this is to print to PDF, the album list, figuring that somehow, in my bored state, I missed a few...

    Well, that's the rub...

    There are albums on the source that somehow managed to be re-compliationed on the destination. There are also tracks that have reverted to their original misattributed artists.

    In other words, the destination is a freaking MESS! From the same source!

    DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT!!!

    I'm just venting here, but whoever did this to iTunes deserves to be flogged, shot, and have their fingernails yanked...

    /rant

    And since the names were changed, and the album names were altered on some as well, and even the song names have been changed, finding the 70 missing tracks is going to take, well, a long time...
     
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    Don't know if this applies, but as I recall it, iTunes doesn't update audio track files when you make changes, it just updates the iTunes database. So if something happens to the DB, you'll see tracks returning to their previous state. If that's what is causing your troubles, get an app like Media Rage and use it to update AAC and MP3 tags.
     
  3. PinkyMacGodess thread starter macrumors 68040

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    That could explain it, although I had to rebuild my database, pre-12.2.2.x, and it all came back the way that I had it set up in the old, blown, iTunes.

    Like I was AMAZED that it actually ALL reloaded into the new database, without missing anything, or any changes. Well, or so it would seem.

    Apparently there are multiple layers of the database? Or, yeah, possibly the tags, but I'm thinking this 'feature', or maybe more precisely 'behavior' seems to be different. As in, why allow people to make changes, if you are going to just ignore them, and have the person have to redo the changes... But... Well... Hmm...
     
  4. ignatius345 macrumors 6502a

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    I experimented with Apple Music and it was a HUGE mistake. Cover art ruined, songs attributed to wrong albums... I had to revert as best I could from a Time Machine backup, but I still feel like some stuff is messed up.
     
  5. McScooby macrumors 6502

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    I'm not so sure about this, I've got my media on an external drive & when I take it & use on another unrelated computer, it shows up artwork (maybe) but tags n'all having been changed, I think best way to do things is to export iTunes library database, delete all tunes in library when switching drive, & then re-import database, at least that's what I'm hoping will happen!
     
  6. PinkyMacGodess thread starter macrumors 68040

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    I would believe the earlier commentator on this post, except that I have copied the files out of the Music directory, and had them import/add to a different computer's iTunes WITH THE CHANGES INTACT.

    What I've surmised over my battles with iTunes is that the files apparently do have deeper tags (or the database does, which is unlikely) and that the new iTunes reads those deeper tags, and populates the iTunes database with those deeper tags, which I'll bey a million dollars it never did before.

    Why the change in operation? That's an interesting question to ask the minions at Apple's software development cube farm.

    I say it's unnecessarily user abusive, and uncalled for. It almost smacks of some kind of RIAA ham handed tactic.

    I've wondered when Apple would start snitching on what we have in our iTunes databases.

    It can be argued whether ripping DVD's and CD's is a violation of some licensing edict from the studios, but if you don't share the data with anyone, and you own the physical media it came from, what's the deal. So they can't add the gold and mahogany trim to the corporate jet. Is iTunes being groomed to enforce more than the studio's tags in the future?

    I can see Apple swinging the direction of more DRM... It's hard to believe that this new iTunes 'feature' with the tags is just a random bug, or whatnot...
     
  7. McScooby macrumors 6502

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    Either I've got this wrong, or you misunderstand me. iTunes of old let you change names add plist etc, but when you moved it to a new drive it reverted to all the old versions minus newer tags, now when you change something it changes the source also, surely this is a good thing & what you want to happen? I certainly do, but the stinger for me was that I hadn't exported the DB so lost all the playlist folders down the sidebar, I'd switched main mac drive 3yrs ago & have been left trying to sort it ever since (I've quite a large collection imported from cd), once I've got it all reloaded, I'll try something like doug's scripts & hope it put stuff back together playlist wise!
     

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