Google might just scrap chromebooks, you never know. Their history is littered with discontinued/abandoned products. Forget cheap chrome books, they tried pulling the same stunt discontinuing cloud technologies in GcP after companies invested millions. Google slowly crawled out with special customer contracts to extend support.
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I am so mad at Apple
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It's stuff like this (supporting a device for a decade, long into it's obsolecence) which definitely endears Apple to a lot of people out there.
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It's laughable that this is being discussed as anything but a triumph. If any other company declared on launch that they would support their product for over a decade, when the lifecycle of the product is 3-5 years, then they would be celebrated.
Yep. I purchased a (barely!) used 2020 HP C1030 Elite 16GB Chromebook more than a year ago for <$160 from a liquidator. It has awesome specs:
10th Generation i7 processor (i7-10610U) with Intel® UHD Graphics
(1.8 GHz base frequency, up to 4.9 GHz with Turbo Boost 8 MB L3 cache, 4 cores)
Memory 16 GB DDR4-2666 SDRAM (supports Dual Channel Memory)
128 GB PCIe NVMe M.2 SSD internal storage
13.5" diagonal, WUXGA+ (1920 x 1280), touch screen (flips over flat 180 degrees), IPS, micro-edge, anti-glare, 1000 nits, 72% NTSC
Bang & Olufsen, dual stereo speakers
1 microSD expansion slot (SD, SDHC, SDXC)
Spill-resistant, full-size, island-style, backlit, textured, flint silver Chrome keyboard
Glass multi-touch gesture ClickPad
Updates are good to go til June 2030!
Not that I mind buying Mac's... I just sell the MBP's every 3+ years to get max resale value.
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Why aren't you mad at Intuit for not supporting your choice of OS?
Time to put this thread on "ignore".
Moderators: I nominate that it be locked or moved to the "wasteland" category.
Moderators: I nominate that it be locked or moved to the "wasteland" category.
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That's a different business model. It's because you're the product, so of course they want to provide ten years of security updates so you keep using their software and services. It's not because they care about the environment lol.
Did I mention yet that I have done my taxes on my iPad the last few years. Didn't even crack open a Mac OS device.
One thing this thread confirmed for me was that there’s no value in buying more machine than you need in order to “future proof it”. I have a base iMac 8ram, 256gb drive. Works great and when it doesn’t, I’ll just buy a new one. No need to max out the ram and the SSD space if that doesn’t really future proof anything anyway. As mentioned, not very environmentally prudent, but I’ll do my best to recycle it / dispose of it properly when the time comes.
You can take your old Mac to any Apple Store to get it recycled or disposed of safely.
If you are in the United States, Apple has partnered with a company called ERI to provide a free 'drop-off' service with a prepaid shipping label.
More info here: https://www.apple.com/shop/trade-in#recycle
>> Use Open Core Legacy Patcher: https://dortania.github.io/OpenCore-Legacy-Patcher/
I upgraded my 2013 Mac Pro using this. Works great.
I have almost always have computing needs increase. My M1 Max 64 GB RAM upgraded from Intel 32 GB RAM saved money from upgrades when my RAM need went up. If you are casual user, base model makes sense.
If I needed more when I buy it, then I would pay the extra. It’s not necessarily a casual user thing. This thread just shows, there’s not much point in the thought of buying up, from whatever level you’re at, to “future proof” your computer. If I felt different, then the iMac is probably not a good machine to buy. It’s not in any realistic way upgradeable so it’s basically an expensive disposable machine.
I feel ya, I have a 2019 iMac that I'm sure it's days of being supported are numbered- which I'm less then excited about. One thing I do regret opting for was the Fusion Drive .. not a fan ..
Although I have a late 2009 iMac as well that just died on me roughly a year ago.
If only you could at least run other operating systems on Mac's so one could avoid some ewaste
I didn’t need 64 GB when I bought it. I know folks who upgraded for lack of RAM, after a year or two. If you are a casual user, computing needs hardly change. With unified memory it’s important to plan if you are using it for professional use. My family uses MBA m2 base model with 8GB.”, they are generic users.
If your Mac is critical to bringing home the bacon and keeping the roof over your head, surely you’re going to price in a current, supported, AppleCare-ed computer as part of your cost base?
This doesn’t have to be anything more than a base SKU Air or Mini.
Think really really hard, it will come to you.
Come on Mike.
I mean, it got 6 years of updates, and iOS has continued to grow and add features, so the same chip is going to have to work harder to run it (third party apps have also grown in complexity).
The other options are not providing those feature updates and just giving security updates (which people would complain about), or completely dropping support for it sooner (which people would complain about)
Unless a device -just- gets but fixes after it’s release, it’s sure to get slower and worse battery life over time, regardless of battery health, as the OS, (and apps, and the internet) get more complex and require more clock cycles for the same tasks
& it sounds like the Sierra install might have just borked something, esp if a fresh install on an SSD fixed the issues?
Computers are way different than smartphones. It’s completely normal (and expected) for a 10 year old computer to work. That’s the way it is for both Windows and Linux. Apple is the odd one out here. They treat their macOS updates like iPhone updates — a big numbered updates each year. And then developers have to target that specific update (and older ones if they choose, kudos to the ones that do). But the underlying code base is largely the same. It’s an arbitrary limitation by Apple.
Again, Apple stands alone on this. My example says it all. My same laptop computer runs modern software but only under the Windows partition.
10 year old computer works just fine. All security updates and stuff are still applied to it.
A 3rd party software developer decided not to run their latest version of their program on its version of the OS - completely and 100% on their discretion but this is not on Apple at all. Not to add that this software in question has a web interface that can run with any modern browser.
Apple has an OS that runs on Apple HW only. Linux and Windows are not tied to any brand of computer but they do have minimum HQ requirements that might support even a 15 year old HW - but they do not have control on how it runs on that specific HW, hell there they might run but some peripheral might not be supported.
Entitledness on this ask is otherworldly.
It's like owning an old car that cannot meet emission requirements and the driver blaming the car company for not doing so.
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