I am Starting To Hate AT&T!!!

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by obakri, Jun 21, 2008.

  1. obakri macrumors newbie

    Jun 11, 2008
    Why won't they let everyone have the iphone for the same price??? They said it will cost 199 or 299 but now they post a letter stating that current users without an iphone must be elgiable for an upgrade... What is the price if we are not elgiable???
  2. joejoejoe macrumors 65816

    Sep 13, 2006
    there's already a thread discussing this.

    AT&T does this with every phone, only difference being that current iPhone users are treated special. Not everyone can get an LG Shine for free or a blackberry curve for $50, only those who are eligible. Same goes with the iPhone, AT&T is just acting like every other carrier out there.
  3. Michael CM1 macrumors 603

    Feb 4, 2008
    1) ELIGIBLE, not elgiable

    2) If they're smart, they'll cave and offer a contract-free iPhone for half a fortune since they're not letting everybody have the upgrade price. But for right now, I would hold back a little bit of venom. Crap has changed a million times since the announcement, so hold that hate for July 11.

    It's not really a shock that they aren't letting everybody have the upgrade price. That's how every other phone works. If you got a discount on another phone from AT&T, they're on the hook for that money to the manufacturer and counted on your biz to make it up. Same deal is going on with the iPhone.

    In essence, there's no such thing as a free iPhone.
  4. Geffen macrumors 6502

    Sep 23, 2007
    Where is the letter posted? So does this mean if you currently do not have an iphone or if not elgible you have to pay a different price than the $199 ??
  5. jpruitt macrumors member


    Jun 15, 2008
    Greensboro, NC
    I've been thinking more about this... If Steve said during the keynote that the 8gb iPhone would not sell for anything more than $199 around the world, this would open grounds on a nice lawsuit.

    Or Maybe I just need to stop watching lawsuit movies and go to bed :)
  6. zap2 macrumors 604


    Mar 8, 2005
    Washington D.C
    pretty much every company in the US does that with phones. Last time they let anyone buy it for 499/599 at launch, this time it will be 199/299 for some and another price for others. Sounds like a win(people who can upgrade)/neutral(people who need to pay the "normal" price) to me.
  7. cryo macrumors member

    Jun 20, 2008
    They haven't defined "eligible," so relax until the official details are released. The legal language is very vague at this time, we don't know there is any price difference, and I personally think they will let anyone upgrade at the $199 price with a 2 year contract and data package. AT&T will make a killing on new data plans and contracts with this phone.
  8. extraextra macrumors 68000


    Jun 29, 2006
    Every phone company does this, with every phone. If you buy a Blackberry for the subsidized price ($199 or whatever), and you decide you want a new phone 2 months later, you will have to pay the full price for the new phone. Same with any Samsung, Motorola, LG, etc. phone.

    They've now made it the same for the iPhone. I really think AT&T's problem was that they created all these special rules for the iPhone when they really should've just put it in the same category as other smartphones. That way there would've been less confusion and less trouble on everyone's part.
  9. PhightinPhils26 macrumors 6502a


    Sep 12, 2007
    What I don't think you all understand.. is that this is the latest way Apple and AT&T are going to try to police the unlocking. By only offering it to current iPhone customers and those who are eligible this means that the phones they sell (in theory) wont be unlocked and everyone gets their money.
  10. MBHockey macrumors 68040


    Oct 4, 2003
    New York
  11. Niiro13 macrumors 68000

    Feb 12, 2008
    Okay, first of all, every single cell phone carrier does this.

    Do you even know WHY they don't let you upgrade?

    Take the 3G iPhone for example.

    For every iPhone 3G activated, AT&T pays Apple $425 in commission. Yet, they're selling the iPhone 3G for $199.

    How do they make this up? Well, they raise the data plans $10. Now $10 times 24 months is $240.

    Hey look! They made up the money that they lost!


    Now what if Blackberry Bold came out and you wanted that?

    Well, if you're not eligible for upgrade, obviously you didn't wait the two years.

    So let's say you only had the iPhone 3G for 13 months. 11 months left x $10...that's $110!

    Wait a minute! So if they let you upgrade to the Blackberry Bold before your contract expires...THEY LOSE THE $110 THAT WAS FOR MAKING YOUR STUPID IPHONE $199.

    That's why you have to be eligible to get the low price. This applies to any subsidized phone. The first iPhone is always eligible...why? Because there was no subsidized price. So even if you only had it for two months...AT&T still go their full $399 on the iPhone...they're not missing any $200.
  12. kleo macrumors regular

    Feb 18, 2008
    I cant agree more with the poster. Some people pride themselves on having the ability to sell anything to anyone. ATT seems to have the opposite tallent telling willing customers they CANT buy their products :rolleyes:
  13. .Andy macrumors 68030


    Jul 18, 2004
    The Mergui Archipelago
    No they're not. Everyone can still buy the products, they just can't have the subsidised price if they haven't met their previous contractual obligations.
  14. sassenach74 macrumors 65816


    May 3, 2008
    Hampshire, England
    Wirelessly posted (PPC; 240x320; HTC_TyTN/1.0 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.7))

    I didn't realise this was such a hard concept to grasp
  15. fishkorp macrumors 68020


    Apr 10, 2006
    Ellicott City, MD
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

    Apparently people here never bought a cell phone in the US before, other than first iPhone. Otherwise this shouldn't shock anyone. I've been buying phones this way since 1995.
  16. eplchamps0304 macrumors 6502a


    Jan 31, 2008
    Just go over to the ipod touch forum. Some still can not comprehend why the iphone 8gb is cheaper than the ipod touch of the same capacity. They feel you are getting more with the iphone for a cheaper price and that it does not make any sense.
  17. QCassidy352 macrumors G4


    Mar 20, 2003
    Bay Area
    simply stunning. i expect more from MR users.
  18. Starflyer macrumors 6502a


    Jan 22, 2003
    Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU like Mac OS X; en) AppleWebKit/420.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.0 Mobile/4A102 Safari/419.3)

    Exactly. Thank you.
  19. seenett macrumors regular

    Dec 4, 2007
    I can't believe this argument is still being used!

    How many iPhone owners were already in a 2 year subsidized contract when they got their iPhone? It is an erroneous assumption to say that AT&T is "not missing any $200" from those subsidized contracts. Every existing AT&T customer who purchased a subsidized phone after February 2007* AND subsequently activated an iPhone is having their "upgrade eligibility" date reset with a 3G iPhone.

    *standard 18 months before upgrade eligibility
  20. busterbluth macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2008
    Im happy

    As everyone has said, this is the way every cell phone company operates, I dont like it, but thats the way it is.

    Im actually suprised that they are allowing current iPhone owners to upgrade at the discounted price. thats very generous, cause i plan to buy an iphone everytime a new one comes out...just hope att service doesnt suck, which it does..
  21. geekmommy4 macrumors 6502


    Feb 10, 2008
    Good grief. Here we go again. The first iPhone wasn't subsidized. That is why you can upgrade it to the 3G without waiting for your contract to expire.

    You probably won't be able to do that with the next iPhones if you get the new 3G version at a subsidized price. You probably won't be eligible to upgrade until that contract period is up without a cancellation fee. Be sure you want this one before you accept the contract!

    at&t service doesn't suck everywhere. It might for you, but it's great lots of places. That same goes for Sprint, T-mobile, etc.

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