iPhone SE I buy the new iPhone every year...and I just bought an iPhone SE instead

wborisenok

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Every year for the past 5 years, whether I'm eligible for an upgrade or not, I buy the brand new iPhone. It's become kind of a personal Christmas-in-September for me. About 2 weeks before the new phones are unveiled, I jump over to an older phone so I can sell my current model. It was no different this year; I re-activated an old 5S and got my matte black 7 Plus boxed up and ready to sell. I love all of the hype beforehand, the Apple event, the pre-order, waiting on delivery, unboxing my new toy, and enjoying the "honeymoon phase" for the next two months. I live for this stuff.

Until this year. Everything was on pace to unfold like any other year. I followed along with the rumor mill and patiently awaited for the Apple event...but before I knew it, the event was over and I was left feeling completely underwhelmed. Of the lineup they announced, there is not one device that I'm yearning for.

Where should I begin? I guess I'll start with the price tag of the base model iPhone X: $1000. For that price, you can buy a MacBook! Maybe I could look past the price tag if it weren't for the ugly black notch at the top of the device, the lack of home button/Touch ID (which, in my opinion, is the most natural and efficient form of device security), and the lack of 128GB option. 64GB isn't enough for me, so I'd have to spend $1149 on 256GB. (Sidebar: this might be what aggravates me the most. It's a sales tactic that Apple has deployed for years: take away the middle-of-the-road storage option and force those buyers to either upgrade their storage or downgrade their storage. Most will choose to upgrade and spend the extra cash. Ironically, it hasn't really bothered me until this year - the year Apple priced their flagship phone at and above $1000.)

Having said all of the above, maybe I should just go for the iPhone 8 or 8 Plus. Well, not the 8 Plus...I really wanted to downsize this year. Okay - so the iPhone 8! What new features will I get?? A glass back...a faster chip...a slightly nicer screen...and wireless charging. Well, I'll get wireless charging if I want to spend the extra cash on a Qi charger. I won't get portrait mode since that's still only dedicated to the Plus model phones. And, lest we forget, in order for me to get the appropriate amount of storage, looks like I'll have to drop $849 on the 256GB model.

Although, I have kind of been enjoying the use of my old iPhone 5S. Speed aside, it's a great little phone (keyword: little). Man, if they offered this with an upgraded camera and some faster hardware, I might actually consider it. ***DING, DING, DING!*** The iPhone SE. I almost forgot about the iPhone SE. A souped up iPhone 5S! Feels great in the hand, fits right in my pocket, easy to handle, and...COMES IN 128GB?! Wait, am I about to go COMPLETELY rogue???

YUP. I went rogue. As of an hour ago, I ordered a 128GB Space Grey iPhone SE. It arrives tomorrow and I'm actually quite excited about it. While most of you may think that I took a major step back, I kind of feel the opposite. The iPhone SE feels like 'ol trusty. It's the last of what was a great breed of iPhone - the last sign of Steve Jobs. It's fast enough to compete with today's standards, it embodies the ergonomic form factor, it packs a 12MP camera, has Touch ID, and a 3.5mm headphone jack. As much as I didn't want to admit it, the annoyance of not being able to charge AND be plugged into a speaker or have wired headphones in posed an issue more than I had hoped. The iPhone SE will do exactly what I need it to do...and it'll do it for $449. I'm going back to the basics for a while and I'm hoping Apple will do the same.
 

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I love having my gold SE to switch up from 7+ when feeling bored or wanting a small, one-hand device while walking my dog/bike riding (not one handing while bike riding, but it just 'disappearing' in my pocket)

It'll probably get me through the likelihood that I commit to neither the 8+ or X

This feels like a stop gap year, despite all the hype and hoopla

I've now had my SE longer than any iPhone in recent history (A year and a handful of months) and its not going anywhere
 
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wborisenok

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I love having my gold SE to switch up from 7+ when feeling bored or wanting a small, one-hand device while walking my dog/bike riding (not one handing while bike riding, but it just 'disappearing' in my pocket)

It'll probably get through the likelihood that I commit to neither the 8+ or X

This feels like a stop gap year, despite all the hype and hoopla

I've now had my SE longer than any iPhone in recent history (A year and a handful of months) and its not going anywhere
You're the third or fourth person to say this in the past 24 hours. It's actually a huge part of the reason I made the jump; so many folks have GREAT things to say about the SE. I opened up my 7 Plus an hour ago and held it in my hand...immediately after I picked up my 5S and it felt right at home.
 

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You're the third or fourth person to say this in the past 24 hours. It's actually a huge part of the reason I made the jump; so many folks have GREAT things to say about the SE. I opened up my 7 Plus an hour ago and held it in my hand...immediately after I picked up my 5S and it felt right at home.
People see SE two different ways:

Sucky Edition/Cheap Edition

or Sleeper Edition

I happen to fall under the latter ;)

I still don't regret paying full retail for my 64gb when I did (@ $499)

AND it's still the only SE to get a jailbreak. 32/128 configs shipped with 10.2.1 and hence, unjailbreakable to date.
 
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wborisenok

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I don't blame you. I was on the fence about whether to upgrade my 6s Plus and I squally jump at the chance to upgrade. The keynote was actually quite helpful in that clarified for me that I'm staying pat.
had I not wanted to downsize, I'd be staying put too. I actually thought I was staying put regardless but then I remembered the iPhone SE existed. lol.
 

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So many of us have made the switch to the SE over the last 1.5 years, and most of us can't stop going on about how good it is.

It's actually liberating in a way, as you have a lightbulb moment and realise that the SE is the device that meets your actual requirements without all the gimmicks, and you can jump out of this continuous cycle of "upgrading".

It's fast, durable, has amazing battery life, so easy and comfortable to use. You're gonna love it.
 

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I'm actually considering moving from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone SE myself. My perceived value of the new iPhones based on my usage aren't worth the higher price points. One of the things that excites me the most is having back a headphone jack again. Also, moving back to just a basic Apple smartphone sounds fantastic. But, at the end of the day, my iPhone 7 (although it's slightly bent and needs a silly adapter) works fine for me. And, I'm not sure giving Apple more money is the right answer right now for me.
 

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As a geek and nerd, iPhone SE won't cut it. The future is in Neural Nets, and processors that beat out basic computers all in your phone. The SE, while it looks nice and works just fine... is really not the future. Eventually the future will become past, but you've missed out on way to much time for it to get there.
 
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I'm kinda interested in the SE. I have seen so many people talk about how amazing they are. I currently have the 6s Plus and have been having the worst battery life, although the speed of the OS is awesome. Seeing how the SE has the same processor as the 6s, it should be even faster than my iPhone.

I must admit that I love the larger 5.5" screen, and Idk if I could go back to the smaller screen. Last time I pulled my 5s out of storage I couldn't remember how to type on it properly because I have large hands and find it hard to type on such a cramped surface. I had friends with the SE and they absolutely loved the phone. The just upgraded to the iPhone 7 about a year ago. They only did because their new carrier at the time was running a promotion on it. Otherwise, they probably would have kept the iPhone SE. It really is a great iPhone.
 

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As a geek and nerd, iPhone SE won't cut it. The future is in Neural Nets, and processors that beat out basic computers all in your phone. The SE, while it looks nice and works just fine... is really not the future. Eventually the future will become past, but you've missed out on way to much time for it to get there.
Eh

What are you looking forward to doing from the power of A11 face neural ness aside (assuming you get the X) that A10 or even A9 can't do for that matter?

--

...The funniest part about SE is I'll bet apple has NO IDEA why it's selling well outside of being affordable / intended to be a gateway iPhone to buy more premium models down the road once they get hooked to iOS. :D
 
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So many of us have made the switch to the SE over the last 1.5 years, and most of us can't stop going on about how good it is.

It's actually liberating in a way, as you have a lightbulb moment and realise that the SE is the device that meets your actual requirements without all the gimmicks, and you can jump out of this continuous cycle of "upgrading".

It's fast, durable, has amazing battery life, so easy and comfortable to use. You're gonna love it.
this definitely happened to me, but not before I went into a 2-hour window of denial. hahah.

I'm considering going to the SE too from my current 6S...just hard to know if it'll be updated early next year as some rumors suggest.
i'm rolling the dice here. if the update comes -- great, I'll sell my current SE and/or stash it away as a backup and get the new one. I think the thing we have in our favor is that the SE will hopefully continue to be the "entry-level" model that they keep priced pretty fairly. upgrading is a bit easier when you aren't dropping $900 every time.

I'm actually considering moving from an iPhone 7 to an iPhone SE myself. My perceived value of the new iPhones based on my usage aren't worth the higher price points. One of the things that excites me the most is having back a headphone jack again. Also, moving back to just a basic Apple smartphone sounds fantastic. But, at the end of the day, my iPhone 7 (although it's slightly bent and needs a silly adapter) works fine for me. And, I'm not sure giving Apple more money is the right answer right now for me.
this is definitely something I think I've struggled to come to terms with. the new features are really fun at first, but something like 3D touch -- I rarely use it. meanwhile, I paid for it.

As a geek and nerd, iPhone SE won't cut it. The future is in Neural Nets, and processors that beat out basic computers all in your phone. The SE, while it looks nice and works just fine... is really not the future. Eventually the future will become past, but you've missed out on way to much time for it to get there.
I agree, the SE isn't the "future" - but I don't really think the iPhone X is, either. I'll be very interested to see how well-perceived Face ID is and if it even makes it to the next model. the iPhone SE is appealing to me because it goes back to the basics. it's closer to the foundation of how the iPhone came to fruition in the first place.

I'm kinda interested in the SE. I have seen so many people talk about how amazing they are. I currently have the 6s Plus and have been having the worst battery life, although the speed of the OS is awesome. Seeing how the SE has the same processor as the 6s, it should be even faster than my iPhone.

I must admit that I love the larger 5.5" screen, and Idk if I could go back to the smaller screen. Last time I pulled my 5s out of storage I couldn't remember how to type on it properly because I have large hands and find it hard to type on such a cramped surface. I had friends with the SE and they absolutely loved the phone. The just upgraded to the iPhone 7 about a year ago. They only did because their new carrier at the time was running a promotion on it. Otherwise, they probably would have kept the iPhone SE. It really is a great iPhone.
this happened to me too. the first 2 days of use felt really bumbly. I'm a little over a week into it and it's like butter now. just like riding a bike, it comes back to you! I've been using the 7 Plus for a year, as well..didn't think I could ever go without the big screen. but it's been oddly comfortable having this little phone back in my hands.
 

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Great post, OP. I too had the 7+ and as great the screen is, I have an iPad Mini 4 for when I want to browse MacRumors or consume video via Netflix.

To me, it didn't make sense for me to have a 5.5" phone along with a 7.9" iPad. I ultimately brought out my SE and instantly fell back in love with the device. It took getting used to the smaller keyboard, but I can fit the device comfortably in my pocket without it feeling instrusive.

I have the 7 as well now, but the SE is by far my favorite iDevice.
 
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It's great to hear that you're enjoying the iPhone Peasant edition!



Totally kidding.

Earlier this year I went into an Apple Store to have MacBook repaired and while I waited, I spent a lot of time playing with the SE. I was immediately impressed with how fast it felt. In fact, I got a little too distracted and ended up spending a full half hour just browsing the web and playing some game on it.

Not too long after that, I took the liberty to upgrade my parents' phones to the SE. Zero complaints since then. My father appreciates the speed and my mother loves the camera (a little too obsessed with Live Photos though). They seriously will not even think of upgrading their phones again unless their SE's get completely destroyed.

Good move by Apple. While I prefer the new gimmicks and larger screen sizes, I think it's important to remember that there are lots of people out there that just want a small, fast, high-quality phone without breaking the bank. Hopefully Apple keeps this in mind in the future.
 

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Great post, OP. I too had the 7+ and as great the screen is, I have an iPad Mini 4 for when I want to browse MacRumors or consume video via Netflix.

To me, it didn't make sense for me to have a 5.5" phone along with a 7.9" iPad. I ultimately brought out my SE and instantly fell back in love with the device. It took getting used to the smaller keyboard, but I can fit the device comfortably in my pocket without it feeling instrusive.

I have the 7 as well now, but the SE is by far my favorite iDevice.
thanks! I half expected some folks to blast me for this thread since I'm not on the new iPhone bandwagon..but I come in peace. I'm normally first aboard, but I've kind of seen a different light this time around. nice to know I'm not alone!

It's great to hear that you're enjoying the iPhone Peasant edition!



Totally kidding.

Earlier this year I went into an Apple Store to have MacBook repaired and while I waited, I spent a lot of time playing with the SE. I was immediately impressed with how fast it felt. In fact, I got a little too distracted and ended up spending a full half hour just browsing the web and playing some game on it.

Not too long after that, I took the liberty to upgrade my parents' phones to the SE. Zero complaints since then. My father appreciates the speed and my mother loves the camera (a little too obsessed with Live Photos though). They seriously will not even think of upgrading their phones again unless their SE's get completely destroyed.

Good move by Apple. While I prefer the new gimmicks and larger screen sizes, I think it's important to remember that there are lots of people out there that just want a small, fast, high-quality phone without breaking the bank. Hopefully Apple keeps this in mind in the future.
lol @ peasant edition. yeah, I have to admit -- after spending the last week and a half on this 5S, I'm stoked to regain the speed tomorrow while keeping the 4" size. it'll kind of feel like time travel. :p
 

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SE is awesome. I went from a 6 to a SE and loved it. Then my lovely wife surprised me with a new 7, and my SE went to her. The 7 is terrific, and I think it might be hard to give up 3D Touch and Touch ID 2 after using them for a while, but the SE's form factor is amazing, and it's an all around excellent performer. You'll really like it.
 

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I totally agree with your assessment, wborisenok. It's compact, it has great battery life, it's plenty fast, and it's relatively inexpensive (especially now). I hope they keep the SE's form factor and simply update it with improved internals–it's thin and light enough! Let those who prefer keeping up with the arms race of bigger and badderer displays buy the Pluses and Xs and whatnot. I feel the same way about the 11.6" MacBook Air: I so wish they'd update it with newer intel chips, but keep the USB ports and replace the Thunderbolt 2 with a Thunderbolt 3 port. Magsafe is great, I like the 16 x 9 display, and it's frickin' thin/small and light enough, as is the SE.
 

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Picked up a 16gb space gray SE a couple of week ago. Love this thing. Super fast, buttery smooth, efficient, love how I can do things with one hand, and the battery lasts what seems forever. It does everything I need it to do, and more. It really is a great phone with a timeless design. There really isn't that much more the bigger and more expensive iPhones do that the SE can't.