I can't leave a group message

jayes

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I am stuck in the middle of a group text that has gone off on a tangent and is no longer relevant. I heard that one now has the option to leave a conversation, but my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.02 only gives me the option to quiet the conversation but not to leave. I don't have unlimited texts so I really would like not to use my limited texts on meaningless chatter. Is it because all of the people in this conversation don't have iPhones? I've looked at the options under details ten times and can't find the "delete me" option. Am I completely missing something ?
 

sviato

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Under the Do Not Disturb option there's one to Leave this Conversation. Although now that I'm looking at it in a group convo that I'm in, my option to leave is greyed out so I can't leave either :confused:
 

izzle22

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I am stuck in the middle of a group text that has gone off on a tangent and is no longer relevant. I heard that one now has the option to leave a conversation, but my iPhone 6 running iOS 8.02 only gives me the option to quiet the conversation but not to leave. I don't have unlimited texts so I really would like not to use my limited texts on meaningless chatter. Is it because all of the people in this conversation don't have iPhones? I've looked at the options under details ten times and can't find the "delete me" option. Am I completely missing something ?
This option is a bit misleading. Yes all the phones in the group text not only have to be iPhones they all have to be runing IOS 8 or higher as well. This is unfortunate due to the fact that this will probably never happen with my group messages or many others.
 

jayes

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Thanks for the update on this feature. Yes. Very misleading. I don't even have a greyed out option to leave the conversation. And it is going to be only a handful of people able to use this option if it requires iphone AND IOS 8.
 

lelisa13p

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What happens it you delete the initial message and all subsequent messages to date? Is that sufficient to break the chain for that conversation? IDK but it seems like anything would be worth a try.
 

izzle22

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Thanks for the update on this feature. Yes. Very misleading. I don't even have a greyed out option to leave the conversation. And it is going to be only a handful of people able to use this option if it requires iphone AND IOS 8.
Most of my group messages have not had the greyed out option either. I have seen the greyed out option once. I think when the option is there but greyed out that means everyone is on an iPhone but not on IOS8. When the option isn't there at all someone is on a phone other than an iPhone. I'm not completely sure though. All I know is I've never been able to leave a group chat.
 

Dino F

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Most of my group messages have not had the greyed out option either. I have seen the greyed out option once. I think when the option is there but greyed out that means everyone is on an iPhone but not on IOS8. When the option isn't there at all someone is on a phone other than an iPhone. I'm not completely sure though. All I know is I've never been able to leave a group chat.
...yep - possibly correct!

I have just looked through all my messages. I had 2 group chats. The first (between me and 2 other people), I knew for a fact that one of the guys did NOT have an iPhone and the option to leave the group was NOT showing.

The second group chat (again, between me and 2 other different people), I knew that both people DID have iPhones. I know one of them does indeed have iOS 8.0.2 but unsure if the other person also has iOS 8. In this instance, the option to leave the group is there but it is greyed out so unelectable (possibly because the group chat was started before iOS 8?)
 

jayes

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A little update... I have a Mac and when I looked at the thread on the computer, it showed everyone with blue phone numbers except one person who had his number in red. I'm assuming the red number meant it was not an iphone. Right clicking gave me the option to delete that person from chat. I don't know how that affects the behavior of the thread onward as it's been quiet the last few days, but if I am only getting messages from iPhones it's not as big a deal as it will not eat into my message count. I had already turned the thread to quiet so it did not bing at me.
 

Cscottrun

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I'm in a group chat right now and I have the option to leave. It is in red. Also, not everyone in the chat is on iOS 8.

I'm running iOS 8.1. The newest beta.

Edit: looks like only some of the groups I'm in give me the option in red. I'm trying to figure out what the difference between the groups are. So far, only thing I see is that the ones that allow me to leave have four or more total people in them.
 

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Dino F

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I'm in a group chat right now and I have the option to leave. It is in red. Also, not everyone in the chat is on iOS 8.

I'm running iOS 8.1. The newest beta.

Edit: looks like only some of the groups I'm in give me the option in red. I'm trying to figure out what the difference between the groups are. So far, only thing I see is that the ones that allow me to leave have four or more total people in them.
I think you only get the option to 'Leave Group' when everyone in that group is using an iPhone on iOS 8.0.2
 

Cscottrun

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I think you only get the option to 'Leave Group' when everyone in that group is using an iPhone on iOS 8.0.2
Nope. I have friends in the group still running iOS 7. And groups with 4 people, lets say: Mike, John, Steve, and Eddie - that I can leave. And then another group with the same Mike, John, and Steve, but not Eddie, and I can't leave that one.
 

izzle22

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Nope. I have friends in the group still running iOS 7. And groups with 4 people, lets say: Mike, John, Steve, and Eddie - that I can leave. And then another group with the same Mike, John, and Steve, but not Eddie, and I can't leave that one.
So you're saying 4 people in the group plus yourself or 4 total? I have only been in group chats that large with at least one person on an android phone. I really need to test this with a group of iPhone users.
 

Dino F

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Nope. I have friends in the group still running iOS 7. And groups with 4 people, lets say: Mike, John, Steve, and Eddie - that I can leave. And then another group with the same Mike, John, and Steve, but not Eddie, and I can't leave that one.
As I previously suspected, this article states that you can only leave a group chat if ALL participants are using iMessage on iOS 8 or higher:

http://www.imore.com/how-quickly-leave-group-messages-imessage-ios-8

I would check all your group chats again. The 'Leave Group Chat' option was not in iOS 7 so for "Mike, John, Steve, and Eddie", they will definitely not get this option, and I suspect that you won't get this option either.

Perhaps the group chat you have with "the same Mike, John, and Steve, but not Eddie" which you can't leave, might have some standard carrier sms messages within that whole threaded chat - that is why you cannot leave them. The whole thread (between everybody in the group) may possibly have to contain ONLY iMessages (no sms carrier messages whatsoever).
 

izzle22

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I'm in a group chat right now and I have the option to leave. It is in red. Also, not everyone in the chat is on iOS 8.

I'm running iOS 8.1. The newest beta.

Edit: looks like only some of the groups I'm in give me the option in red. I'm trying to figure out what the difference between the groups are. So far, only thing I see is that the ones that allow me to leave have four or more total people in them.
This really must have something to do with the amount of people in the group chat. I am not sure when if ever I will be in a group chat with 4 or more iPhone users.

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As I previously suspected, this article states that you can only leave a group chat if ALL participants are using iMessage on iOS 8 or higher:

http://www.imore.com/how-quickly-leave-group-messages-imessage-ios-8

I would check all your group chats again. The 'Leave Group Chat' option was not in iOS 7 so for "Mike, John, Steve, and Eddie", they will definitely not get this option, and I suspect that you won't get this option either.

Perhaps the group chat you have with "the same Mike, John, and Steve, but not Eddie" which you can't leave, might have some standard carrier sms messages within that whole threaded chat - that is why you cannot leave them. The whole thread (between everybody in the group) may possibly have to contain ONLY iMessages (no sms carrier messages whatsoever).
Well I have been in a group chat with 2 other people besides myself (3 total) all 3 of us were on IOS8 and the option to leave this group was greyed out. I was also in a group chat with 4 people including myself and one person was on an android phone, the option to leave this group was not there at all. So either I have a bug within my message app/phone or the stars have not been all aligned for me yet.
 

Dino F

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This really must have something to do with the amount of people in the group chat. I am not sure when if ever I will be in a group chat with 4 or more iPhone users.

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Well I have been in a group chat with 2 other people besides myself (3 total) all 3 of us were on IOS8 and the option to leave this group was greyed out. I was also in a group chat with 4 people including myself and one person was on an android phone, the option to leave this group was not there at all. So either I have a bug within my message app/phone or the stars have not been all aligned for me yet.
..ok so perhaps the reason for this is thus: The option is showing but it is greyed out BECAUSE you all have iPhone on iOS 8and above HOWEVER, it is probably greyed out because the thread probably contains messages which are NOT iMessages. There may be some standard sms carrier messages within the thread - hence why you have the option to leave the chat but it is greyed out. EVERY message within that thread needs to be an iMessage and NOT a standard sms carrier message

..reason for this is because you have a person in your group who is NOT using an iPhone (the android user) so the option to leave the chat is not there at all

Kinda makes sense..........
 

izzle22

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..ok so perhaps the reason for this is thus: The option is showing but it is greyed out BECAUSE you all have iPhone on iOS 8and above HOWEVER, it is probably greyed out because the thread probably contains messages which are NOT iMessages. There may be some standard sms carrier messages within the thread - hence why you have the option to leave the chat but it is greyed out. EVERY message within that thread needs to be an iMessage and NOT a standard sms carrier message

..reason for this is because you have a person in your group who is NOT using an iPhone (the android user) so the option to leave the chat is not there at all

Kinda makes sense..........
Yes this makes sense but still doesn't make the fact that leaving a group message is hardly ever going to be an option better.
 

gsmornot

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If you only have 3 people in the group to start with and you leave you no longer have a "group". You simply have two people who could message directly. You would need 4 or more to both have a group and be able to leave and it remain a group.

Looking at mine. I have several conversations.
No option - Includes people with many different types of phones.
Gray option - Includes two other people, both with iPhone, iMessage and iOS 8.
Red option to leave - Includes four people all with iPhone, iMessage and iOS 8.
 

Böhme417

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I think you only get the option to 'Leave Group' when everyone in that group is using an iPhone on iOS 8.0.2
I second the "nope" on this. I left a chat with people on iOS 7, so I don't think iOS 8 is a requirement. I'll have to try it with iOS 6 people.
 

izzle22

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If you only have 3 people in the group to start with and you leave you no longer have a "group". You simply have two people who could message directly. You would need 4 or more to both have a group and be able to leave and it remain a group.

Looking at mine. I have several conversations.
No option - Includes people with many different types of phones.
Gray option - Includes two other people, both with iPhone, iMessage and iOS 8.
Red option to leave - Includes four people all with iPhone, iMessage and iOS 8.
Thank you for testing this and giving examples. This makes perfect sense and makes me feel better about why I haven't had this option. I still have no idea when I'll actually have 4 or more people with iPhones on IOS8 and all on iMessage at the same time but it still makes sense.
 

kappaknight

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I think everyone needs to be on iOS 8 for you to leave. I tried leaving in the beta, and it pulled me back once they started chatting again.

Of course, the easiest way would be to iMessage the group and tell them to start a new chat and leave you out of it. No need to be passive aggressive about opting out.
 

darngooddesign

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Yes. That was stated above. ^^^^^
"reason for this is because you have a person in your group who is NOT using an iPhone (the android user) so the option to leave the chat is not there at all"

What I saw as stated above was that everyone had to be using an iPhone, not and iPhone and iMessages.