I can't wait any longer

[Lesser Evets]

I purchased a 2x2.66 about 19 months back and it is still extremely current and runs great. There is no doubt this tower will still be very functional in 4 years. These can stack out with 32GB and (at present) 4 TB drive space.

You can also upgrade processors in time, which might not be amazing but something to boost your system.

I say--BUY, if you really need it.

Don't buy the RAM from Apple, don't buy the HDD from Apple, don't even buy the second ODD from Apple.

Get it all third-party for less than the price Apple makes you pay to UPGRADE TO those specs.

Serious. You can save thousands in RAM and HDD money if you just buy the stuff elsewhere on the net or even in stores.

 

[Tallest Skil]

In your remark of don't buy displays from Apple could you be specific as too why shouldn't we buy these displays. From reviews on Apples web site and there is allot of them, they seem to be a pretty good if not excellent. I for one do NOT have throw away funds, but I do not mind spending extra for something that is built better which it seems ACD's are.

They don't work with the computer he wants.

They're the best displays on the market, but it's idiotic to buy a computer and then just wait and hope that someone will make them backwards compatible.

Just buy third party and buy the computer you want if the computer you want isn't compatible with the new Cinema Displays.

 

[kmo19]

See attached

I called Expercom this morning and they quoted me $2799 for the base model. I asked how much it would be if I was a returning customer, and they said $2679. I wish I could get the prices you are seeing...

 

[michaelsviews]

I called Expercom this morning and they quoted me $2799 for the base model. I asked how much it would be if I was a returning customer, and they said $2679. I wish I could get the prices you are seeing...

I just spoke with Roger at Expercom and the price you have is the 8 core system, if you look at the screen shot I put up there it showed the 4 core system. And the ones that are in stock ship the same day from there warehouses "More than one warehouse"

 

[michaelsviews]

They don't work with the computer he wants.

They're the best displays on the market, but it's idiotic to buy a computer and then just wait and hope that someone will make them backwards compatible.

Just buy third party and buy the computer you want if the computer you want isn't compatible with the new Cinema Displays.

If you already mentioned this than give me the thread, if not would you please explain WHY they will not work with what the OP''s system configuration is?

If I am missing something please let me know.

Thank you

 

[kmo19]

I just spoke with Roger at Expercom and the price you have is the 8 core system, if you look at the screen shot I put up there it showed the 4 core system. And the ones that are in stock ship the same day from there warehouses "More than one warehouse"

Yeah I just noticed that too. I think I want to go with the 8-core. The best deal I've found is here. $2589, no tax, free shipping.

 

[Tallest Skil]

If you already mentioned this than give me the thread, if not would you please explain WHY they will not work with what the OP''s system configuration is?

If I am missing something please let me know.

Thank you

Mini DisplayPort ≠ DVI.

 

[michaelsviews]

Yeah I just noticed that too. I think I want to go with the 8-core. The best deal I've found is here. $2589, no tax, free shipping.

I just went there and when you add to cart and zip code I came up with the following:

Subtotal: $2,589.00

Shipping: (12309, US)
UPS Ground
You save $55.55 ​

FREE
Additional shipping options will be available during checkout
Tax: (12309, US) $207.12 Total: $2,796.12

 

[michaelsviews]

Yeah I just noticed that too. I think I want to go with the 8-core. The best deal I've found is here. $2589, no tax, free shipping.

For what your saying your going to use this for , 8-Core maybe a slight overkill, do not want to go to OT but the guy who wrote River Guide for the iphone is a fellow co-worker and wrote it all on the iMac 24" 3.0 and is now working for J&J and writing a very intense app for them and using the iMac, unless your going to use CS4 for serious graphics and like a 1000 layers of work on some things you mite be spending money you do not need too.

Just trying to help NOT tell you what to buy.

 

[kmo19]

For what your saying your going to use this for , 8-Core maybe a slight overkill, do not want to go to OT but the guy who wrote River Guide for the iphone is a fellow co-worker and wrote it all on the iMac 24" 3.0 and is now working for J&J and writing a very intense app for them and using the iMac, unless your going to use CS4 for serious graphics and like a 1000 layers of work on some things you mite be spending money you do not need too.

Just trying to help NOT tell you what to buy.

Thanks, I understand. I'm also going to be running Pro Tools LE on it, which can be very processor-intensive. The iPhone development is just what is pushing me into buying now instead of waiting 3-6 months, because I need an intel-based mac for that.

 

[jimmyjohn114]

Yeah there pretty much isnt any use for you to buy a machine like this. You could do all this on a MacBook if you wanted to, and just get an external display if you need a larger screen.


About the Apple Cinema Displays, the old ones are no good so I would not recommend buying those because they are inferior technology and slow. I went to the Apple store recently and compared the new 24" LED display and the old ACDs and the difference was a amazing. The old ACDs looked washed out and grainy. So I don't know if you were thinking about those but to buy one of those things would be ridiculous. You could get a better monitor from Acer or someone for $200 that has better color, response time, and resolution.

If you HAVE TO have a MacPro I would definitely wait. The technology you'll get is already over a year old. It is such a waste to buy an outdated machine for such a high price. And for upgrade parts I would recommend NewEgg not OWC or whatever. Everything on OWC is over priced. It is for macs only but you don't need to get Mac only parts anymore. I recently just upgraded ram for three Mac notebooks and I got all of it from newegg and it was supposedly only for PC's. Being that all macs have regular intel hardware lets you get hardware for intel pcs, not special mac hardware. I looked at memory for "mac only" on the new egg site and it was $40 per DIMM, then looked at the same spec'd memory on the PC only side and it was $25 yet it was perfectly compatible with my mac. So after that long winded explanation OWC is very overpriced.

 

[michaelsviews]

Yeah there pretty much isnt any use for you to buy a machine like this. You could do all this on a MacBook if you wanted to, and just get an external display if you need a larger screen.


About the Apple Cinema Displays, the old ones are no good so I would not recommend buying those because they are inferior technology and slow. I went to the Apple store recently and compared the new 24" LED display and the old ACDs and the difference was a amazing. The old ACDs looked washed out and grainy. So I don't know if you were thinking about those but to buy one of those things would be ridiculous. You could get a better monitor from Acer or someone for $200 that has better color, response time, and resolution.

If you HAVE TO have a MacPro I would definitely wait. The technology you'll get is already over a year old. It is such a waste to buy an outdated machine for such a high price. And for upgrade parts I would recommend NewEgg not OWC or whatever. Everything on OWC is over priced. It is for macs only but you don't need to get Mac only parts anymore. I recently just upgraded ram for three Mac notebooks and I got all of it from newegg and it was supposedly only for PC's. Being that all macs have regular intel hardware lets you get hardware for intel pcs, not special mac hardware. I looked at memory for "mac only" on the new egg site and it was $40 per DIMM, then looked at the same spec'd memory on the PC only side and it was $25 yet it was perfectly compatible with my mac. So after that long winded explanation OWC is very overpriced.

Someone else can correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK, Mac Pro has to be the ECC, Now if I am correct, which I think I am here, than the memory is high priced at both places you listed.

Regarding the ACD's being old and grainy, hmmm older technology yes, grainy I have never seen a grainy ACD, have to remember whats driving the ACD also.

 

[cosmos]

Get what you need when you need it...

Someone else can correct me if I am wrong but AFAIK, Mac Pro has to be the ECC, Now if I am correct, which I think I am here, than the memory is high priced at both places you listed.

Regarding the ACD's being old and grainy, hmmm older technology yes, grainy I have never seen a grainy ACD, have to remember whats driving the ACD also.

As others have said, get the machine you need now. There will ALWAYS be another better, bigger machine released about three days after the return policy is over. Unless you have a lot bigger bank account than me, I would recommend purchasing what you need now and upgrade as needed.

I have a 2008 Mac Pro (8 core 2.8GHz) with 16GB RAM and an Apple RAID Card running an Apple supplied Seagate 750 boot drive and 3 - 750GB Samsung aftermarket drives. Note: Not all aftermarket memory FB-DIMMs are made the same. I went with OWC memory with their specs and lifetime warranty. Currently, they are sold for $185.99 for 4 modules of 2GB each. You should always have matched pairs in the risers in a Mac Pro for the best performance.

While at the time I purchased the drives from Newegg, http://www.macsales.com currently has really great prices. Drive/memory prices have DROPPED like a stone in the last few months. Both storage and memory are at crazy low prices right now.

I remember the time when only 1MB used to be $700 USD or more! Today you can find memory in the GB range for less than $25 USD! Do a quick Net search and find the best deals for you.

I also went with an aftermarket Samsung 24" monitor. This box runs my business with a Parallels VM running XP used for the laser print driver. I can run anything you can imagine with Final Cut Pro, FileMaker Advanced, Aperature as well as PhotoShop, Corel Draw and PhotoGrav on the XP side.

I also have a cloned drive in the gun safe should I have a need to boot from a total disaster without spending countless hours on installs and updates.

As you can see, the Mac Pro with the right software and hardware can run virtually anything out there today. As for performance, even in 32-bit, Geekbench runs at 8929!

Don't forget to defragment AND backup the drives either offsite or in a fireproof safe on a regular basis no matter what you get or are running.

If I need more, then I guess Snow Leopard should give an added boost.

Really, I cannot imagine a current Mac Pro, or for that matter, an iMac or Power Book with enough memory not being able to give anyone what they truly need for a LONG time.

Just be smart and purchase the memory, hard drives and monitor third party.