CanadaRAM said:I constantly use Preparation-H. Does that count?
Okay, so I just started getting into the habit of selecting words I don't know and searching for them in Google by CONTROL-clicking.
Conclusion: ignorance is bliss.
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Okay, so I just started getting into the habit of selecting words I don't know and searching for them in Google by CONTROL-clicking.
Conclusion: ignorance is bliss.
Applespider said:Except for them using F12 to activate Dashboard in Tiger of course
Right. I moved mine to F8 though, since that doesn't do anything special on the 12" iBook, and so I don't have to press Fn-F12 to get the Dashboard.
mkrishnan said:I think it's a relatively light-hearted rant.shidoshi said:
Yes it was a light-hearted rant, just poking a little fun not
or anything. I have lost my name, and yadda yadda yadda....watch the movie to see how I get it back!Nice mkrishnan, I'm glad someone else has seen it.
efoto said:Yes it was a light-hearted rant, just poking a little fun not
Nice mkrishnan, I'm glad someone else has seen it.
Actually, and yes, this is way, way, way, off-topic...I wonder how they did this in the English version. The fact that the Japanese name has some cleverness to it aside, this whole part of the plot line must have been very hard to translate...and I thought it was very cute, since it has so much of the feel of a child's "magical thinking."
So from reading above the PowerBook line has a dedicated F12 key with Eject next to it, and the iBooks have Eject being a fn-F12 action?mkrishnan said:Right. I moved mine to F8 though, since that doesn't do anything special on the 12" iBook, and so I don't have to press Fn-F12 to get the Dashboard.
OT:
I'm not sure how well of a job they did translating it because I don't know japanese, however I really enjoyed the movie and the plot. They did give the impression that names are important, although the specific names used are prbably lost, save for those explained in the movie. I watch it in Japanese w/ English subs, like all anime I have, but it doesn't help me understand the plot any better than what I readmkrishnan said:
Thanks to those who recommended Desktop Manager. This is an excellent piece of Software. At last I can have (working) multiple desktops again. Really missed this since having my sparc 5 removed from my desk at work. Tired several alternatives on the Win platform none have worked. This one does.
inlimbo said:
Hell yea, I love hot corners, bottom left is Expose F11 and bottom right is dashboard, the ultimate in lazy
abrooks said:Hell yea, I love hot corners, bottom left is Expose F11 and bottom right is dashboard, the ultimate in lazy
Actually, the ultimate in utilizing Fitt's Law
efoto said:
I think plain F12 is eject on the iBook and you need fn-F12 to get to Dashboard. I changed Mum's iBook's Dashboard to F8 to make it easier for her.
abrooks said:I got the impression this only applied to physical objects such as the top menu
What makes the menu "physical"? It's a bunch of pixels on a screen. That aside, Fitt's law is this:
Targets can be reached faster and more effectively based on how large a target they are. An edge of the screen is an infinate target in one dimension, but a corner of the screen is an infinate target in two dimensions. In other words, if you're aiming for the top-left corner of your screen, there's no way you can miss by going too far to the top, or too far to the left, since the corner is infinate in those directions. Therefore, the 5 easiest places for your mouse to reach are: the pixel directly beneath it, and the 4 corners. The next easiest places are the 4 screen edges, and then any other pixel on the screen.
So, it doesn't really have anything to do with objects being "physical" or not. Not that a corner is less physical than a menu anyway...
Hope that helps.
Sure, hot corners follow Fitts Law but that's actually a problem on my little 12 inch screen. It's far too easy to trigger hot corners on such a small screen. The iMac would be fine with its 17 inch screen but I haven't got into the habit of using them since I spend half my time on such small real estate.
I think Fitts Law is great, but it's main drawback here is its efficiency and competency. I don't want windows flying everywhere every time I move the mouse.
I think Fitts Law is great, but it's main drawback here is its efficiency and competency. I don't want windows flying everywhere every time I move the mouse.
mad jew said:Sure, hot corners follow Fitts Law but that's actually a problem on my little 12 inch screen. It's far too easy to trigger hot corners on such a small screen. The iMac would be fine with its 17 inch screen but I haven't got into the habit of using them since I spend half my time on such small real estate.
I think Fitts Law is great, but it's main drawback here is its efficiency and competency. I don't want windows flying everywhere every time I move the mouse.
Well, you're still utilizing Fitt's law. Notice that under 10.4 (for the first time) a mouseclick in the top-left corner (the very top left corner) still brings up the apple menu, effectively making it an infinate target. Additionally, the bottom-left corner button in Dashboard also makes use of Fitt's law. And of course, the most notorious Mac use of Fitt's law is the menu. Clever Apple got a patent on a Fitt's-compliant menu, which is why windows doesn't have one.
I know what you mean about the screen corners, though. Even on a larger screen, it takes a little use for your muscle memory to learn not to bounce the mouse off of the corner unless you're specifically aiming for it. I think the rewards are worth a bit of relearning (at least on my 14"). It may be different with the 12" though.
Sorry, just to confirm; I've got no problem with Fitts Law as such, but I don't like hot corners because of their strict adherence to it. It's just too easy to trigger them.
mad jew said:Sure, hot corners follow Fitts Law but that's actually a problem on my little 12 inch screen. It's far too easy to trigger hot corners on such a small screen. The iMac would be fine with its 17 inch screen but I haven't got into the habit of using them since I spend half my time on such small real estate.
I think Fitts Law is great, but it's main drawback here is its efficiency and competency. I don't want windows flying everywhere every time I move the mouse.
Hahaha windows flying everywhere.
I like that.
I just imagine you're working on your computer, and you accidentally move the cursor to the bottom right and all of a sudden you've got windows everywhere. On the ceiling, on the floor, on the window. And now you've got to pick them all up.
stridey said:What makes the menu "physical"? It's a bunch of pixels on a screen. That aside, Fitt's law is this:
Targets can be reached faster and more effectively based on how large a target they are. An edge of the screen is an infinate target in one dimension, but a corner of the screen is an infinate target in two dimensions. In other words, if you're aiming for the top-left corner of your screen, there's no way you can miss by going too far to the top, or too far to the left, since the corner is infinate in those directions. Therefore, the 5 easiest places for your mouse to reach are: the pixel directly beneath it, and the 4 corners. The next easiest places are the 4 screen edges, and then any other pixel on the screen.
So, it doesn't really have anything to do with objects being "physical" or not. Not that a corner is less physical than a menu anyway...
Hope that helps.
Well instead of physical object I should have used the term on screen object and seems a hot corner is not actually there where by I mean you can't see where it starts or ends then I still feel that Fitts Law does not apply to hot corners.
abrooks said:
You're entitled to that opinion, but if you do a bit of research I think you'll find that you're in the minority.
But you can see the corner. It's right there where the two sides come together. Fitt's Law is about the size of targets, not just visible objects. Here is an excerpt from the Wikipedia article on Fitt's Law:abrooks said:
Wikipedia Article
To anybody still interested the, menu bar now adheres to Fitt's Law in Tiger (using the targets of the screen as clickable targets) - not so in Panther.
Dashboard also takes advantage, when hitting the "+" button in the lower left corner.
The Dock does not for drag and drop purposes (only applies if you position your dock to the corners of the screen) BUT it does takes Fitt's Law into account for clicking on icons.
And yes Fitt's Law does apply to hot corners.
Dashboard also takes advantage, when hitting the "+" button in the lower left corner.
The Dock does not for drag and drop purposes (only applies if you position your dock to the corners of the screen) BUT it does takes Fitt's Law into account for clicking on icons.
And yes Fitt's Law does apply to hot corners.
stridey said:See #89
Oops
And I was so sure I had read checked all the comments!Note that "my" observations were in fact from Daring Fireball, so I can claim no credit...even though I was well beaten to it!