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I tried to finish reading this, but I got nauseous halfway though. It’s really hard to digest this type of fake attitude. You can convey your opinion without coming off as you did. Maybe learn some humility. That’s how we grow. You were wrong in how you brought all this up. Period. You’re entitled to your opinion, but sometimes your opinion isn’t appropriate to be shared, especially when it seems you lack situational awareness.
Ahhhh...then that would explain why you got offended...got it! As for your opinion that sometimes my opinion isn't appropriate to be shared...you are welcome to hold that opinion...I disagree...but that's OK...we are both adults! See how this works?

And I don't lack (as you put it) "situational awareness". I believe that you are confusing a "lack of awareness" with a "lack of concern over others opinion of me combined with a belief that other people should actually be able to take somebody disagreeing with them". However, if you believe that situation awareness means never saying anything that might, maybe, possibly, upset anybody in any way...then yes...I lack it...I lack it with a vengeance!

The ironic thing to me is that I have, all along, stated that these are my opinions...yet you state quite clearly that your take is objectively correct..."period"! This is a worrying trend that I have noticed...usually among the perpetually offended but not exclusively.
 
You are coming off like you think that people posting in this thread sharing how we are motivated by the watch to be more active are all just wanting to conform to trends or mindlessly following groupthink. I hope you can see how people might feel offended by such an assumption, considering, like you say, you don't know us. Even if you didn't mean to say that any of us individually are acting on groupthink, you must think that many people who use the watch to increase their activity levels are following groupthink, otherwise why bring up groupthink in this thread at all? No, you aren't arrogant for having an opinion. It's just that the opinion you have happens to come off as arrogant. I hope you can appreciate the distinction.
To be honest...I long ago stopped considering whether people that I am conversing with (online or in real life) might be offended by what I say...simply because it seems there is no logic any more to what is offensive! I find that something that is 100% tolerated by one group is deemed utterly unacceptable by others.

So I just accept that offence is something that is taken...not given!

It is true that people can be deliberately offensive, but me just stating my option that I get saddened by the seeming reliance on technology to motivate/remind/collate/etc. is - TO ME - depressing...is not a deliberately offensive statement. I didn't walk into a room of people of a particular minority and start insulting that minority! I didn't scan the thread and find a person to pick on and attack them...I simply made a comment on my view of the state of society.

With all of that said, I do appreciate that their is a difference between being judged for having an opinion, and being judged for the content of that option...so thank you for the clarification. It won't change who I am or how I conduct myself, in the same way that I wouldn't expect you or others on this thread to not voice your dislike for my opinion...that's just how the world works!

So to those that were offended, nauseated or otherwise detrimentally affected by views on the world, all I can say is...it's a shame that you took offence.
 
Meanwhile, I bought it hoping that it would motivate me to stick with it or exercise more, and I’ve found myself caring about the rings a lot less than I expected. When I get notifications that I need to stand or that I’m behind on my rings for the day, I’m just like: :rolleyes:

The good news is that I started working out regularly when I was young, so I start feeling pretty guilty on my own without any watch telling me if I haven’t been working out enough recently. I’m good at keeping myself in line. The bad news is that the watch didn’t give me as much encouragement as I thought it would.
 
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I get saddened by the seeming reliance on technology to motivate/remind/collate/etc. is - TO ME - depressing...is not a deliberately offensive statement. I didn't walk into a room of people of a particular minority and start insulting that minority!
But you did walk into a thread of people feeling good about getting motivated to be more active because of the watch, and throw a wet blanket over our enjoyment. It's not on the same level as purposefully insulting a minority, but I find it hard to believe that you didn't know posting that opinion in this thread might make people upset.

As for technology reliance, I don't worry too much about that, because I think humans are pretty adaptable. For instance, when there was a blackout some time ago, our neighborhood groceries quickly gave out ice creams and other perishable foods, people set up chairs in front of their buildings and sat outside so people coming home from work would feel safe while walking in the dark, and we all figured out alternate ways to spend the evening without TV or computers to entertain us. Had the blackout lasted longer, I'm sure we all would have adapted somehow. I sometimes wonder at the fact that my friend's kids have never had to brush their teeth by hand. having had electric toothbrushes their whole life. But I'm sure if need be, they could learn to brush their teeth manually in five minutes. So I just take advantage of whatever technology is available, and don't spend time being depressed over how convenient all this technology is.
 
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But you did walk into a thread of people feeling good about getting motivated to be more active because of the watch, and throw a wet blanket over our enjoyment. It's not on the same level as purposefully insulting a minority, but I find it hard to believe that you didn't know posting that opinion in this thread might make people upset.

As for technology reliance, I don't worry too much about that, because I think humans are pretty adaptable. For instance, when there was a blackout some time ago, our neighborhood groceries quickly gave out ice creams and other perishable foods, people set up chairs in front of their buildings and sat outside so people coming home from work would feel safe while walking in the dark, and we all figured out alternate ways to spend the evening without TV or computers to entertain us. Had the blackout lasted longer, I'm sure we all would have adapted somehow. I sometimes wonder at the fact that my friend's kids have never had to brush their teeth by hand. having had electric toothbrushes their whole life. But I'm sure if need be, they could learn to brush their teeth manually in five minutes. So I just take advantage of whatever technology is available, and don't spend time being depressed over how convenient all this technology is.
NOTE: This is a long reply...I make no apologies for it...but it seems only fair to preface with a "caveat emptor"...


Honestly...I had thought that it might make some people think about whether they actually needed the gadget to be motivated...about whether the achievement of actually doing it, and any associated health benefits, might be enough rather than the need to compulsively "close the rings"...about whether a well-meaning family member, or friend, suggesting that perhaps they could do with exercising more could actually be a better motivation than being informed by a piece of tech that you haven't completed your assigned exercise for the day.

For me, that sets an uncomfortable precedent in two ways; the first of which we have been discussing (that of personality responsibility vs. "the nudge") and the second of which is simply the conditioning to accept what we are fed by technology as being unarguable and creating borderline Pavlovian responses. Note that I don't actually believe we are THERE yet on the second, but things like this will drip-feed those kinds of responses in many. I didn't mention that until now because the issue being discussed was that of motivation...and I was weighing in on whether or not we should rely on technology for our motivation...that was all.

Could I have taken a more softly, softly approach? Of course. Could I have considered the possibility that my brusqueness might upset some people? I could have. But as I have already explained...I am tired of second-guessing every word that I "say" in case somebody takes offence...it is mentally and philosophically draining! Anyway, to return to your secondary point...

And you make a good point about technology reliance...but also, perhaps inadvertently, a worrying one. While I completely understand and take heart in your story about the blackout...it seems like people did actually adapt...it is the almost offhand comment about your friend's kids that troubles me. As it stands, you all adapted because you remembered how to. Human beings are very adaptable...but we can only adapt into things that we know how to do. As you say, while your friend's kids could learn how to manually brush teeth in five minutes...they haven't. And if they never do...well then their kids will most likely never learn. And it won't take too long until that knowledge is resigned to the history books!

Hardly culture-threatening I grant you! But it is the point that yes, currently, we are able to adapt because there are enough of us that survived and prospered pre-technology-overload so we know how to do things in the event that the tech fails. For example, my own son looked on in wonder as I changed a light fitting recently...as if what I was doing was alchemy when it was simple DIY. So the longer the reliance on technology goes on, the less chance we have of being able to adapt into situations without technology because that knowledge will simply be if not "lost" then certainly "misplaced".

As another poster here mentioned, they have difficulty remembering things when they go to the store, or remembering birthdays or something similar. Notwithstanding the fact that we can just as easily write a list on a piece of paper for the store, I am reminded of the fact that, pre-mobile phones, most people would be able to tell you the phone numbers of their friends and family members from memory...simply because they had to. Many people now struggle to even remember their own number, because they don't have to. So if we get out of the habit of doing something, if we don't practice it, then our ability to do it atrophies...understandably so!

So, while I personally would love to live an "off the grid" life as I have already stated, I realise that for the vast majority that sounds like a living hell...and that's fine. I do feel, however, that we should try a little harder to retain some of our traditions and mental abilities and not simply endlessly laud all of the convenience benefits of technology...lest we are steering ourselves blindly into a future which is a nightmarish mix of The Matrix and Wall-e!!

However, I will accept that it seems that a substantial majority are more than happy to find only benefits in technology so I will respect their decision, I will not voice my opinion any more on the matter here, and I will leave the conversation to those who wish to discuss the benefits! Thanks to those who did engage in conversation...it was certainly enlightening in many respects!
 
Dude, just go away so people can go back to enjoying bettering themselves because of technology that you hate. Nobody cares about your hate of technology and plans to go off the grid. More power to you. It has literally nothing to do with this thread.
 
Dude, just go away so people can go back to enjoying bettering themselves because of technology that you hate. Nobody cares about your hate of technology and plans to go off the grid. More power to you. It has literally nothing to do with this thread.
?????

I literally just said I was going to leave people to it...and then you just HAVE to weigh in to tell me to do what I have already said I am going to! Bravo good sir! At least you can now mentally take credit for having rid the thread of my toxic influence! ;)

But I promise this will be my last contribution to this thread!
 
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I literally just said I was going to leave people to it...and then you just HAVE to weigh in to tell me to do what I have already said I am going to! Bravo good sir! At least you can now mentally take credit for having rid the thread of my toxic influence!

But I promise this will be my last contribution to this thread!

And yet you are still here.
 
about whether a well-meaning family member, or friend, suggesting that perhaps they could do with exercising more could actually be a better motivation than being informed by a piece of tech that you haven't completed your assigned exercise for the day
Some people might not have family members/friends who care to remind them to exercise more. Others might not like the feeling of being nagged by someone, whereas the watch reminding me is just an impersonal technology -- for me, that actually works better than having someone nag me. I'm not imposing on someone else to remind me to do something I should be personally responsible for.

As it stands, you all adapted because you remembered how to. Human beings are very adaptable...but we can only adapt into things that we know how to do. As you say, while your friend's kids could learn how to manually brush teeth in five minutes...they haven't. And if they never do...well then their kids will most likely never learn
It's true that knowledge can be lost. My mom can sew her own clothes, which I never learned how to do. If I suddenly had to make my own clothes, yes, I'd wish I had learned how from my mom. But I don't feel like spending time and effort learning old ways of doing things just on the off chance we might need to do that again someday. That strikes me as a rather inefficient way of living. There's only so many hours in a day. If I ever need to make my own clothes, I'll figure it out then.
 
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Well I am not a perfect person. I am a great mum, daughter, sister, friend wife. I am good with money. Love my dog, and my house is clean. I hate exercise and my diet isn’t what it should be. Responsible in many areas, deficient in others. Having to close those rings makes it so easy to exercise. I can see at a glance exactly where I am for the day and what I need to do. So far I have closed my rings for 384 days, that is everyday I have owned this Watch. i Absolutely love this watch
 
Very VERY positive threads going on here. Love it.

Reading posts on the first page of this thread has me wondering did anyone on page one buy the Nike+ version of Apple Watch where it’s more focused on rings and Health as a product??

Either way remember everyone to:
Keep hydrated! Nothing good will happen without keep hydrated.

Listen to your body! There is such a thing as over training! If something clicks, jumps about. Doesn’t matter if you’re used to it for years get it checked out. You never know how detrimental something overlooked can affect your mobility or physical movement. Don’t ignore what your body is telling you.

Have FUN!! Train workout out etc but do it for the RIGHT reasons for YOU! Nobody else. Have fun doing it as it becomes less of a chore and less annoying for ring notifications. I speak from personal experience not enjoying myself.

I think I'm one of the only people that has the exact opposite experience with the rings. I've always disliked the idea of being a slave to gadgets or letting technology control me, so I often make the conscious decision to NOT get that extra one minute of exercise to close a ring, or to NOT burn those extra ten calories to cap off what would otherwise be a perfect week or sometimes, month. ?

I do like the fact that the Apple Watch tracks exercise sessions in terms of time spent, heart rate, and all that, but I've never felt compelled to close rings for the sake of closing rings. Like I said, I think I'm in the minority on that.
I’m guessing you’re an or exhibit introvert personality traits. Meaning you run on your own steam mission and cognizance. You don’t need reminders as it annoys you and probably pushes you away. Just a guess. Nothing wrong with that either not in the least.

Tell me about it…. 1462 days and counting….. Yes, it’s addictive.
Blimey! Give this person a trophy or a prescription as their addicted!!

Awesome way to go!! See THIS is someone whom fully enjoys their workout and doing it for the RIGHT reasons.
 
Meanwhile, I bought it hoping that it would motivate me to stick with it or exercise more, and I’ve found myself caring about the rings a lot less than I expected. When I get notifications that I need to stand or that I’m behind on my rings for the day, I’m just like: :rolleyes:

The good news is that I started working out regularly when I was young, so I start feeling pretty guilty on my own without any watch telling me if I haven’t been working out enough recently. I’m good at keeping myself in line. The bad news is that the watch didn’t give me as much encouragement as I thought it would.

Like you I was physically active and fit even if super skinny growing up.

Rings do seem to annoy me, more than they should. I’m not focused as much do to do much Rogers’s in muscle mass, shape and cardiovascular health progress of 2yrs before Covid and lock downs which just kept happening here in Ontario, CA. After this bummer I lost trust until September flip flopping form these tiny gyms that opened late but with minimal or ideal equipment, for me.


Equipment I feel any gym I join must have:
Clean!
Hammer Industries chest press, incline decline all seated. Same for rows high regular low.
Standing Calf raises setup and seated calf raises where padding isn’t worn to the point your quads just above the knees are being dug into by Freddi Kruger and screaming per set taking away focus.

Many gyms up until 3wks ago on Still limited how many ppl could access gyms or time of day restrictions. The gym I’m at has that seated calf raise annoyance of poor care, limited opening hours 8AM-8PM. This means now back in office next week until end of February or worse forever (push for return to office) affects my reasonable public commute time.

But for now while getting back into consistent workouts is this super cute yet dedicated cutie I keep seeing the same times I’m at the gym. It’s a nice distraction and motivation as I see her pushing I push when I’m feeling vague about my progress. I’m noticing she kinda does the same too but that’s normal in any gym. Soon back to the fist gym I went to in my area 5yrs ago. Hoping better equipment is there but then the busy atmosphere of chit chat holding up equipment gets me vexed. Lol.
 
did anyone on page one buy the Nike+ version of Apple Watch where it’s more focused on rings and Health as a product??
I've had both the Nike and regular versions. I don't think the Nike version is any more focused on the rings and health. Only difference is the Nike Run Club app comes preinstalled, and you get a few
Nike watch faces that have the NRC complication built in. Other than that, the Nike watch is no different from a regular Apple Watch.
 
Very VERY positive threads going on here. Love it.

Either way remember everyone to:
Keep hydrated! Nothing good will happen without keep hydrated.


Blimey! Give this person a trophy or a prescription as their addicted!!

Awesome way to go!! See THIS is someone whom fully enjoys their workout and doing it for the RIGHT reasons.
Thanks for the mention?. Yes, once I started exercising using the watch I simply found it impossible to stop. I just needed to keep bashing it EVERY DAY; now 4 years+.
I wholly agree with you on water intake…. Besides hydration, water has other impressive benefits. It flushes the system of impurities and helps keep the kidneys happy. I suffer from PTSD (UK injured Veteran) and by drinking plenty of water it certainly helps keep my PTSD, anxiety and depression in check.
 
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