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Most of my collection is in storage now, but I quite literally have a 5 foot tall stack of G3 and G4 towers. I didn't need another. I'm well covered on both stock and modified ones.

Last week, though, I saw one semi-local to me pop up on LEM swap on Facebook. It was priced a bit high I thought, but kept looking at it. It had one small crack in the plastic, but otherwise was perfect(I DO have a perfect B&W, which is very special to me for several reasons, but I'm sure you all know most of them are beat to crap). Otherwise it seemed like a decent 400mhz rev. B with too little RAM.

I took a closer look at it, though, and noticed a couple of things. One was that it had 3 single stack drive bays across the bottom of the case, and not the standard rev. B double stack cage. The one drive was connected by a long pale yellow cable to a card, not the LoBo.

Sure enough, it had this elusive little marking on the back

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Yes, I know there's nothing especially unique about servers. I have some beige ones, including G3s and some older ones.

Still, though, for a check-the-box collector, you need one. This one is nice with its original "Jackhammer" card and a 10K 68 pin SCSI drive.

It's running 9.1 now and has some good software, so I'm reluctant to dump the install. Still, though, I'm going to try and find some 68 pin drives in storage and load it up. I'm leaning toward adding a drive for OS X Server 1.2v3(what else on a server?) and a third for 10.4.11. Alternatively, I might partition one of the drives for 1.2v3 and 10.4.11 and then do BeOS on the 3rd drive. There are lots of options.
 
I honestly don't have a great place to set up a desktop permanently now, but can make do for a little while to play with one.

Here you have it, with the Rage 128 crying from driving a 1080P monitor.

Also, one of the things I love about B&Ws is that they have an ADB port, so yes that is my prized Apple Extended keyboard connected to it. I have a dozen AEKIIs, but it took me a while to find an original Extended and it's incredible. I think it's orange Alps switches(vs. cream Alps if you're lucky, or Mitsumi if you're not on the AEKII). You wouldn't think it would be that different from an AEKII, but it is.

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Nice setup, but what can you do on that thing ? A G4 is much more useful, though regular old apps can work on a G3. I always thought the G3 was archaic.
 
Most of my collection is in storage now, but I quite literally have a 5 foot tall stack of G3 and G4 towers. I didn't need another. I'm well covered on both stock and modified ones.

Last week, though, I saw one semi-local to me pop up on LEM swap on Facebook. It was priced a bit high I thought, but kept looking at it. It had one small crack in the plastic, but otherwise was perfect(I DO have a perfect B&W, which is very special to me for several reasons, but I'm sure you all know most of them are beat to crap). Otherwise it seemed like a decent 400mhz rev. B with too little RAM.

I took a closer look at it, though, and noticed a couple of things. One was that it had 3 single stack drive bays across the bottom of the case, and not the standard rev. B double stack cage. The one drive was connected by a long pale yellow cable to a card, not the LoBo.

Sure enough, it had this elusive little marking on the back

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Yes, I know there's nothing especially unique about servers. I have some beige ones, including G3s and some older ones.

Still, though, for a check-the-box collector, you need one. This one is nice with its original "Jackhammer" card and a 10K 68 pin SCSI drive.

It's running 9.1 now and has some good software, so I'm reluctant to dump the install. Still, though, I'm going to try and find some 68 pin drives in storage and load it up. I'm leaning toward adding a drive for OS X Server 1.2v3(what else on a server?) and a third for 10.4.11. Alternatively, I might partition one of the drives for 1.2v3 and 10.4.11 and then do BeOS on the 3rd drive. There are lots of options.

its nice to see you have got another Mac in the collection :)

its interesting to note, how it only says "Macintosh Server G3" and the Beige is the same

I never realised they omitted the "Power" bit! I wonder if the PowerMac G4 Servers are the same or not?


sadly the G3 BW is too new to run BeOS, but 1.2v3 and 10.4.11 should work well, you could install 10.4.11 Server to match with the machine :)

bonus points if you manage to find 50 iMac G3's to netboot off of it :) (although you might want the optional 4 port intel ethernet card that apple shipped with the Macintosh Server G3 BW for that)
 
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Nice setup, but what can you do on that thing ? A G4 is much more useful, though regular old apps can work on a G3. I always thought the G3 was archaic.

I will have some fun using it for what it was designed to do-like work as a server.

G3s are fine OS 9 boxes and have some real world benefits over G4s like how cool they run.

I have no shortage of G4s. This is a little bit of fun variety.

its nice to see you have got another Mac in the collection :)

its interesting to note, how it only says "Macintosh Server G3" and the Beige is the same

I never realised they omitted the "Power" bit! I wonder if the PowerMac G4 Servers are the same or not?


sadly the G3 BW is too new to run BeOS, but 1.2v3 and 10.4.11 should work well, you could install 10.4.11 Server to match with the machine :)

bonus points if you manage to find 50 iMac G3's to netboot off of it :) (although you might want the optional 4 port intel ethernet card that apple shipped with the Macintosh Server G3 BW for that)

Thanks! It's been a while on a desktop!

I hadn't thought of doing 10.4.11 server. I have a boxed copy(well, maybe 10.4.3 or so) that came with my Xserve G5 that I could install. I'm pretty sure it's on CDs given that the Xserve G4 didn't ship with a DVD(although mine has one now :) )

What do I need for BeOS? I think it was on my 9600/200MP when I got it, and am sorry I ditched it. Actually, IIRC, it was the only OS that could actually use both CPUs at an OS level(and not just program-by-program as in OS 9, or just ignore it completely as in OS X). Is the block CPU related or firmware related, and could I run it on say a beige G3?

If I can get the iMacs out of storage, I can't do 50 but I can probably do a dozen :) .
 
I hadn't thought of doing 10.4.11 server. I have a boxed copy(well, maybe 10.4.3 or so) that came with my Xserve G5 that I could install. I'm pretty sure it's on CDs given that the Xserve G4 didn't ship with a DVD(although mine has one now :) )

Yeah they did indeed sell a CD Copy of OS X server 10.4.11, as even the first Xserve G5 shipped only with a CD-ROM drive!

What do I need for BeOS? I think it was on my 9600/200MP when I got it, and am sorry I ditched it. Actually, IIRC, it was the only OS that could actually use both CPUs at an OS level(and not just program-by-program as in OS 9, or just ignore it completely as in OS X). Is the block CPU related or firmware related, and could I run it on say a beige G3?
indeed your 9600/200MP is probably the best bet for BeOS, which wont even run on later 9600's (like my 9600/300), so its just a non starter on anything like a G3 beige, theres just no Support for the Gossamer platform sadly

and indeed BeOS and Linux are pretty much the only OS's for a 9500/MP or 9600/MP that will fully utilise both CPUs

(at least im pretty sure Linux can use both CPUs, but I have not seen anyone try in recent years I dont think)
 
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