Just, don’t buy the iPhone with Apple modem? Or wait, idk, 7 years for it to mature? That’s plenty of time for you to contemplate and think through and through.
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iPhone 16 Pro Max I DO NOT want Apple’s first 5G Modem phone. I’m not a Beta tester.
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If Google can do it Apple can surely do it. The (Samsung based) modem in the Pixel 8 Pro was horrible. The Pixel 9 Pro is completely different + more efficient and gets better signal in places than my S24+ did with its QC modem. A lot can happen in a year, let alone 5-6 years from Intel modem days, by the time the iPhone 17 releases. We will see.
Don't freak out until you find out...
Don't freak out until you find out...
Thanks! I've kept it going now for 3.5 years and I figure I've got another year to go before I upgrade.
I forsee no issues, as my 11PM is handling iOS 18 just fine.
Where you will still be a “beta tester” for camera control, Apple Intelligence, and iOS 18 in general
Remember when M1 was announced, and then the reviews started to pour out and those chips were spectacular? Hoping it'll be the same with these modems.
I don't know if I've even used it on my devices, but the SE's modem is rumored to not include mmwave, so we won't know how that works until later.
The OP made quite a silly comment. Like saying when the M1 Macs were rumored: "This is probably your last chance at having a quality Mac computer with a higher quality Intel inside. So get an Intel Mac while you can."
We all know how that went.
I can promise you one thing.
This is 100% true.
if Apple do put their own modem in the iPhone 17 etc... You, personally, will NOT be FORCED to buy it!
To quote your thread title.... I DO NOT WANT.....
therefore you DO NOT HAVE TO BUY IT!!
You will not be breaking any laws sticking with an older phone with a modem chip that meets your needs.
Oh, and p.s.
Remember when Apple ditched intel and released their own M series chip? Yep - thats going pretty well eh.
Nods head in assent while typing this post on a 2009 INTEL Mac Pro running Sonoma.
We don't know enough to say whether it will be good or bad. Here is an idea: Wait until it is released and read a review. Be an informed consumer. If it isn't good, you can still purchase an existing iPhone 16 model, as they have continued to keep the older model available. Additionally, this site just published an article predicting the new modem's release on the iPhone SE model. Don't jump the gun.
Another cry of the soul. Nobody cares. Who wanted to, has already bought ))))
In the end, if we want to buy Apple products, we are going to be beta testers. My biggest problem is why this is happening, just like the M-series and A-series chips. This is not to give us a discount on the new iPhones. Remember Apple used to pay Intel and AMD hundreds of dollars per chip on the Macs. And from past reading, I think Apple is saving more than 75% based on volume. So where does that savings go? Are we ever getting a discount on our Macs? It goes to AAPL shareholders. It’s to ensure Apple shareholders make more money which means Tim makes more money. That is what we all have to understand if we want to be in this ecosystem.
I do think Apple will hold off on rolling it out to iPhone pros for several years. I think it goes SEs, then standard iPhones then finally pro iPhones.
It would be nice if they finally put their own cellular chips in MacBooks for free to prove they work. Been waiting for that feature forever.
I do think Apple will hold off on rolling it out to iPhone pros for several years. I think it goes SEs, then standard iPhones then finally pro iPhones.
It would be nice if they finally put their own cellular chips in MacBooks for free to prove they work. Been waiting for that feature forever.
Yes? Let's start harshly criticizing the entire line of 16 series iphones. Too slow, very quiet speakers (when the phone is calling on the street, should all drown out), heats up a lot, the camera is so bad, the battery drains very quickly, should work without recharging at least a month.Too cheap!I don't have Tim Cook's phone number in my phone book to express my outrage!Where are the apple stickers!? What to put under the beer can now!? It's bad!))))
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Good for you, OP. I'm with you — I'm skipping the 17 line because I don't want to be some guinea pig beta tester for an unproven modem line.
Of course, I skipped the 16 because I don't want to beta test the camera control button.
I also skipped the 15 because I didn't want to beta test USB-C.
And the 14 because I didn't want to beta test satellite connectivity.
And the 13 because I didn't want to beta test ProMotion.
And the 12 because I didn't want to beta test 5G.
And the 11 because I didn't want to beta test the first Pro phone.
And the XS because I didn't want to beta test a phone with dual sim.
And the X because I didn't want to beta test a phone without a home button.
And the 7 because I didn't want to beta test a phone without a headphone jack.
And the 6S because I didn't want to beta test 3D Touch.
And the 6 because I didn't want to beta test a bigger phone.
And the 5S because I didn't want to beta test a fingerprint scanner.
And the 5 because I didn't want to beta test 4G.
And the 4S because I didn't want to beta test Siri.
And the 4 because I didn't want to beta test Apple's smartphone chips.
And the 3GS... can't think of something for this one, but if you got this far in my joke list please know I tried.
And the 3G because I didn't want to beta test 3G.
And, of course, the original. Apple expects me to beta test an unproven smartphone design?
So basically I've got a Nokia for now. Just waiting for Apple to get all the kinks out and I can finally buy an iPhone.
Of course, I skipped the 16 because I don't want to beta test the camera control button.
I also skipped the 15 because I didn't want to beta test USB-C.
And the 14 because I didn't want to beta test satellite connectivity.
And the 13 because I didn't want to beta test ProMotion.
And the 12 because I didn't want to beta test 5G.
And the 11 because I didn't want to beta test the first Pro phone.
And the XS because I didn't want to beta test a phone with dual sim.
And the X because I didn't want to beta test a phone without a home button.
And the 7 because I didn't want to beta test a phone without a headphone jack.
And the 6S because I didn't want to beta test 3D Touch.
And the 6 because I didn't want to beta test a bigger phone.
And the 5S because I didn't want to beta test a fingerprint scanner.
And the 5 because I didn't want to beta test 4G.
And the 4S because I didn't want to beta test Siri.
And the 4 because I didn't want to beta test Apple's smartphone chips.
And the 3GS... can't think of something for this one, but if you got this far in my joke list please know I tried.
And the 3G because I didn't want to beta test 3G.
And, of course, the original. Apple expects me to beta test an unproven smartphone design?
So basically I've got a Nokia for now. Just waiting for Apple to get all the kinks out and I can finally buy an iPhone.
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Ahhahahahhahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Go and check all the CVEs on Qualcomm's steamers. Total disaster zone. Everything they touch goes to hell. Only Broadcom are worse.
The only thing Apple have little expertise in is the RF side of the silicon and possibly associated fab processes. Apart from that they have the engineering teams, they have their own embedded OS, they have their own silicon IP library, they have enough money to access the documentation and get stuff certified and a track record.
You are a beta tester. I am a beta tester. We are all beta testers. We are little guinea pigs in Tim Cook’s hamster wheel running in circles making him billions. Welcome to the Apple Garden Matrix.
I would buy an iPhone with their 5G modem. I am sure it will be rigorously tested.
It's worth mentioning that Intel also has or had a cablemodem chipset business, which was also horrible. Intel Puma 5/6 were absolute crap, 7 slightly better but still crap. Not sure if Apple acquired all of that IP as well or not.
There's only so much you can do without stepping on Qualcomm's extensive IP in this field, or a new court battle will begin.