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I don't buy what Steve said. What to do now?
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Yeah, I'm in the same boat. I'm gonna keep mine though and deal with bumper, unless palm decides they want to announce something in the next 2 weeks.
Damn skippy the AppleCool Aid / Heroin runs deep within the users veins.
What are you talking about? I quoted what you have wrote and added but you know you wont because that was what is in the end of the iPhone antenna song played on the conference yesterday.
I've had 2 Blackberries, 1 previous iPhone, 2 generic phones. The 2 BB's in particular were picky about signal strength and that was on Verizon. I've had less dropped calls on my i4 than I have my 3gs. I attribute this more to the network than the phone.
If you don't want an iPhone 4 (don't buy it)
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
If you don't want an iPhone 4 (don't buy it)
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
If you don't want an iPhone 4 (don't buy it)
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
Bring it back
Bring it back
Back to the apple store
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
If you don't want an iPhone 4 (don't buy it)
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
If you don't want an iPhone 4 (don't buy it)
If you bought one and ya don't like it (bring it back)
Bring it back
Bring it back
Back to the apple store
I am flabbergasted with this sort of question.
Listen to Jonathan Mann.. He has your answer.
Blonde Buddhist
Listen to Jonathan Mann.. He has your answer.
Blonde Buddhist
I called and set up my return yesterday after we all got scolded by the almighty one, saying we were all stupid. I reactivated my 3gs, when I get my contract cancelled I'm going to be looking for something else. I played with the Captivate yesterday at the att store. I think I'm going to give it a try.
The iP4 is an cool gadget, but it fails miserably as a phone. I could lay the phone in my open hand and the data rate would reduce to almost nothing. The proximity sensor issue was the last straw. So with all the bugs the phone has, they come out with a update that tells you the correct signal your getting
The iP4 is an cool gadget, but it fails miserably as a phone. I could lay the phone in my open hand and the data rate would reduce to almost nothing. The proximity sensor issue was the last straw. So with all the bugs the phone has, they come out with a update that tells you the correct signal your getting
There are actually several things you can do but it appears like everyone else you just will not return the phone because it works so well in so many other ways at you are ready to sacrifice the main purpose or function of the device for the other things you appear to have far more interest in. *And this my friend is exactly why Steve Jobs did such a great job yesterday pointing to the facts as they exist after 26 days. No one is returning the phone. Had we all massively returned the phone, well history would be just a little different right now, hypothetically.
But no one did, and no one is and whats worse their selling like no tomorrow.*
So: * **
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1. You can keep it and quit complaining and posting about the antenna, we know all about it now and are sick to death of the complainers out there. * *
The fact that you do not have one iota of faith or belief in a man who gave you pretty the bottom line on the facts surrounding the phone in a clear, well thought out empirically based presentation is something you should really perhaps examine. *One might ask oneself why would this man lie? *What would be the rational behind that, is there some massive coverup going on that would rival the grassy knoll? *
Is there some kind of devious threat looming around the corner in the guise of a hardware update secretly being worked on by Apple as i sit here gripping and squeezing the life out of my iPhone 4 that I should be concerned about?
2. If you don't like it you don't have to keep it. RETURN IT! *You have mentioned in your post several very rational alternatives to the iPhone 4 which are available to you or just use your 3GS until whenever the next iPhone is released some time next year.*
Then think of it, all of this will no longer be of any concern to you. *You won't have to come on here endlessly checking for some news about this device, some new piece of rumor mongering tidbit that will no doubt cause you to have some kind of spasm. It will be a great relief to no longer have to worry about a device that clearly does not work for you as a phone, all those worries will disappear, all the anxiety this has caused you, gone in an instant! *Oh happy day!
Then you can go back to the dark ages as you say for a while or try another device, he'll I hear their putting the apple os on some other phones, do a little research you never know what you will find out there, there has to be something better that will suit your specific needs. *I mean if Steve Jobs has lost all credibility with you, why would you keep it, do you like all the anxiety it causes you?
I don't think you will return it, you'll keep it and always be unsatisfied because you have very little faith in what was presented to you, so it will always be nagging you in the back of your mind. *Had you taken the time to think about this, look at what was said, how it was said and took a long look at this logically taking everything into account you might try employing some of the faith you now clearly lack.
Why would he lie? *Is he a dishonest person?
I for one really don't think so, i think ere are a lot of them out there, and a great deal of them run major corporations, but I just have a hard time wrapping my mind around the possibility that he is one of them. If that's your mind set perhaps you need to explore that a little and try to understand why you might feel that way, what was it the leads you to this thought process. *
It just may be very illuminating for you and many others here to engage in that kind of internal dialog and take a long hard look at what is actually going on subconsciously that continues this cycle of insanity of indecision on your parts.
Make one, a decision and learn to live by it. It will no doubt reduce your anxiety, free up some time and bring you and many others some peace.*
Good luck. * *
Why don't you return and exchange it for another iphone4?
Maybe you just got unlucky with the first batch.
Or exchange it for a newer iphone and if the issue persists, hopefully by then if available, get a nice case for it.
I just noticed i have similar issues with my 3Gs when holding it naked, i guess i never noticed a problem because it has always been in a case.
If you can deal with a case, then as many here pointed out, change to a different phone.
Maybe you just got unlucky with the first batch.
Or exchange it for a newer iphone and if the issue persists, hopefully by then if available, get a nice case for it.
I just noticed i have similar issues with my 3Gs when holding it naked, i guess i never noticed a problem because it has always been in a case.
If you can deal with a case, then as many here pointed out, change to a different phone.
Return it and then you will have no reason to post on this forum again, of course you'll have to do just one more to whine about the return process.
I brought AT&T MicroCell ( no monthly plan). iPhone 4 looses signal only in the area with low reception.
IF I was in the OP's shoes, I'd return it and see what the Samsung Galaxy is all about. Otherwise I'd drop AT&T and get an EVO.
But I'm quite happy with my iP4 no matter what Steve or anyone else says.
But I'm quite happy with my iP4 no matter what Steve or anyone else says.
This is one of the most sensible posts I've seen on the subject. Tried it, wasn't satisfied, took it back. Enough said.
If it's still attenuating that bad with a bumper, then you may have a defective phone.
There should be little to no attenuation when using one.
http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/7/14/iphone-4-meets-the-gripofdeathinator.html
So either the area where you are using your phone has truly awful reception, or you actually have a defective phone. You may want to try swapping it out and see how that goes.
There should be little to no attenuation when using one.
http://www.antennasys.com/antennasys-blog/2010/7/14/iphone-4-meets-the-gripofdeathinator.html
So either the area where you are using your phone has truly awful reception, or you actually have a defective phone. You may want to try swapping it out and see how that goes.
I have a case and mine sits at about two bars while I'm holding it. But it doesn't seem to drop calls or affect data speed...
i'll be glad when all this blows over and dumb threads like this don't populate the first page... jeez just take it back seriously, i have an iphone 4 i love it, the proximity issue is my biggest concern but i trust they'll fix it. please just return and stop being stupid
If you are claiming that you can stop the data with a bumper on, then i'm having a real hard time believing you.
Who's to say. My old 2G and my wife's 3GS show full bars in our house. My i4 shows 2 bars.
It's not possible, another phone losing signals due to the "death grip" and this is from 5/26 before the iPhone 4 release. I thought it only happened to Apple with all the press coverage. I mean, it was a national disaster of epic proportion. This is worse then the oil spill in the Gulf. This guy even has a microcell in his home based upon his video. Sounds like Nokia made a critical error in designing a phone with an internal antenna. Where was the media outcry for their big boy phone? Class-action lawsuit? No free case? Allowed to return it and get a full refund for the phone and no penalty for getting out of the 2 year contract? How could Nokia let something like this happen? Don't they test their phones before going to market? They should have know about this, I can't believe they released this device with this known flaw. I demand a recall! It's the only way they can rebuild my trust in order for me to not purchase their phone since I never planned to buy one. It's about time they get knocked down a notch, thinking they're so great with their phones all these years. I don't own the phone, but it keeps dropping calls and I'm so angry about it. I'm going to get on every forum I can and blog to let people know that it keeps dropping calls when I hold it a particular way even though I don't own one myself, but I heard it does all of the time.
Oh that's right, Nokia is an after thought and is now a blimp on the cell phone radar, you're no media darling so you don't generate hits on blogs and other media outlets for income.
OMG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&feature=player_embedded
Oh that's right, Nokia is an after thought and is now a blimp on the cell phone radar, you're no media darling so you don't generate hits on blogs and other media outlets for income.
OMG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amPG52DVQuk&feature=player_embedded
