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I've heard this from Apple as well. 3.3mph and faster gets you "Exercise" credit.

Now that I think about it this makes sense to give a more 'definitive' answer to a customer since it is an easy to understand concept and meets the 'average' persons requirements. There would be no way or point in trying to explain the intricate differences in exercise physiology & dynamics, detailed algorithms, individual metrics or trying to explain perceived exertion (Borg) to the general public. ;)

We do know that Exercise Minutes are credited for every full minute of movement equaling a brisk walk ("for wheelchair users, this is measured in brisk pushes"), unless using the Workout app. It's even stated in the Health app under the Exercise Minutes section.

The Apple Watch is obviously not using the GPS to determine speed. It's clearly using accelerometers and other sensors for those calculations. Therefore, Apple has to be using algorithms based on individual metrics in order to determine physical activity. For example, my 6'11" coworker will naturally be taking less steps and swinging his arms less during a 3mph walk than someone that is 4'11" walking at the same speed. More footsteps ≠ faster speed after all. The Apple Watch already uses my height and weight to determine my Active Energy and Resting Energy, why wouldn't it do the same for other calculations?

Perhaps the reason TxWatch isn't seeing the same number of exercise minutes as his wife is because his gait isn't maintained above the "exercise" threshold for a full minute. Seconds really do count, as evidenced by digging into the data in the Health app.
 
Perhaps the reason TxWatch isn't seeing the same number of exercise minutes as his wife is because his gait isn't maintained above the "exercise" threshold for a full minute. Seconds really do count, as evidenced by digging into the data in the Health app.

This may be true. My wife is only 4'-11", so her walking gait is faster than mine. She often complains that I walk too fast and I urge her to keep up. :) I have never checked to see if I am walking at 3.3 MPH or above, but with my S2 it will be easier to determine.

Due to the colder weather, we have not walked since I bought my SBSS S2. The next time we get out to walk, I will make sure I double check our exercise minutes before and after. (In case it was the AW S0 calibration issue mentioned previously)
 
I'm pretty sure the 3.3 mph is an approximation, not an absolute. If it was an absolute, then TxWatch and his wife should get the same amount of exercise credit if they walk at the same speed. But they don't. Me and my partner don't get the same amount of exercise credit either, even though we are the same height and walk at the same speed. He gets more credit than me. He does weigh somewhat more than I do, though! So as Julien says, there are complex algorithm calculations going on, but Apple is using 3.3 mph as an easily understood approximation to define a brisk walk.
 
Nope, not over simplifying it. Apple themselves have stated that all it takes is an average of 3.3mph for an entire minute. If watch is moving at 3.3mph for 50 seconds and then drops below that for the last 10 seconds of the minute, you will not get credit for that minute. I have confirmed and verified this thousands of times over the last 20 months of owning my watch.



The idea that it is using your heart rate for minutes is 100% incorrect. Remember if you are not running a workout it is only grabbing your heart rate once every 5 minutes. Therefore it has absolutely no idea that you are working out or not. One heart rate reading every 5 minutes will not give you exercise minutes. The only thing that gives exercise minutes is maintaining the brisk walk pace of 3.3mph for the entire minute. Even when you are running a walking/running workout, you do not get the minutes unless you maintain that pace.

"Other" workout, cycling workouts, stair stepper and elliptical all give one minute per minute the workout is active. that is because there is no way to monitor the watch movement to make sure its maintaining 3.3mph as your arms are stationary. Anything requires wrist movement will not award a minute unless the entire average of that minute is 3.3mph.


From Apple themselves:
Every full minute of movement that equals or exceeds the intensity of a brisk walk counts toward your daily Exercise and Move goals.

The Activity app relies on arm motion and an accelerometer to track movement, but the Workout app can use the accelerometer, a heart rate sensor, and the GPS on your iPhone if you carry it with you. Open the Workout app on your Apple Watch, tap Outdoor Walk, and bring your iPhone on the walk.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204517

Apple classifies a brisk walk as 3.3mph. When you are not running an walking/running workout as I mentioned above, it is only using accelerometer and arm motion. No heart rate, no GPS.


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I was sitting on my couch playing Destiny (video game) last night and I got exercise credit on my watch. I wasn't moving at all ...except for my thumbs. so I don't think movement is the only way it determines exercise.....my heart rate did get up a few times in the crucible though!
 
I was sitting on my couch playing Destiny (video game) last night and I got exercise credit on my watch. I wasn't moving at all ...except for my thumbs. so I don't think movement is the only way it determines exercise.....my heart rate did get up a few times in the crucible though!

Apple's support articles, that I linked above, clearly state that if you are not running a workout, it is only looking for movement to credit exercise minutes. Heart rate is not a factor unless you are running a workout. Your heart rate is only taken once every 5 minutes, and that is not enough to determine if you are exercising or not.
 
Apple's support articles, that I linked above, clearly state that if you are not running a workout, it is only looking for movement to credit exercise minutes. Heart rate is not a factor unless you are running a workout. Your heart rate is only taken once every 5 minutes, and that is not enough to determine if you are exercising or not.

Then explain why it still happens?! I'm not going to argue with you about this but obviously what you are saying is not exactly what is happening in the real world application.
 
Then explain why it still happens?! I'm not going to argue with you about this but obviously what you are saying is not exactly what is happening in the real world application.
In 20 months of owning my Apple Watch, I have never once been given exercise credit when just sitting completely still, heck even when I am moving for a minute solid and what I believe is over a 3.3mph I don't always get credit. Maybe it is just a freak anomaly.

Im not arguing, I'm merely stating word for word what Apple themselves have stated. Apple has sent the 'rule', doesn't mean there aren't any weird glitch exceptions to that rule.
 
In 20 months of owning my Apple Watch, I have never once been given exercise credit when just sitting completely still, heck even when I am moving for a minute solid and what I believe is over a 3.3mph I don't always get credit. Maybe it is just a freak anomaly.

Im not arguing, I'm merely stating word for word what Apple themselves have stated. Apple has sent the 'rule', doesn't mean there aren't any weird glitch exceptions to that rule.

Apple says a lot of stuff that isn't true in reality
 
If everything always worked as expected, Apple wouldn't need "technical support" or a Genius Bar.

I'm just curious to know what he is referring to. He is implying that Apple's own support article isn't true in 'reality' which literally makes no sense. The support article is essential an owner's manual for a product they made. How could the owner's manual not be true?
 
I was sitting on my couch playing Destiny (video game) last night and I got exercise credit on my watch. I wasn't moving at all ...except for my thumbs. so I don't think movement is the only way it determines exercise.....my heart rate did get up a few times in the crucible though!

Are you sure your wrist wasn't moving as you moved your thumbs?
 
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I certainly shook my fist at the screen during my multiple deaths! but I didn't throw the controller at least!

Shaking fists could do it -- I just spent five minutes rubbing coffee off my sofa, and the watch gave me exercise credit.

And good for your restraint in not throwing the controller. :D
 
Shaking fists could do it -- I just spent five minutes rubbing coffee off my sofa, and the watch gave me exercise credit.

And good for your restraint in not throwing the controller. :D

When I worked at a restaurant, on days that I would help roll silverware, I would get massive exercise/move credit. I was moving my hand non-stop for 60+ minutes and it counted all of that. I had to start taking my watch off so I wasn't 'cheating' my goals.
 
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My heart rate spikes when I'm eating cereal? This Watch is so inaccurate..
If your heart rate is high enough, or if you're moving fast enough, the watch counts that as exercise.

You might not be as fit as you think you are if walking around the kitchen elevates your heart rate by that much...or you're running around for some reason.
 
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If your heart rate is high enough, the watch counts that as exercise.

You might not be as fit as you think you are if walking around the kitchen elevates your heart rate by that much...

Your heart rate is only used to determine exercise if you are running a workout. If you are not running a workout, your heart rate is only taken once every 5 minutes, therefore it will not give you exercise credit, no matter how high it is.

Exercise credit is only given if you are sustaining movement for an entire 60 seconds.
 
Your heart rate is only used to determine exercise if you are running a workout. If you are not running a workout, your heart rate is only taken once every 5 minutes, therefore it will not give you exercise credit.
I edited my post within a minute of creating it to correct this. You might want to take a break...
 
I edited my post within a minute of creating it to correct this. You might want to take a break...

Its not that I need to take a break, its the fact that I have literally read and written the same post at least 4 times now in this thread.

Your edit is still inaccurate tho.. It has nothing to do with heart rate unless a workout is running.
 
Its not that I need to take a break, its the fact that I have literally read and written the same post at least 4 times now in this thread.

Your edit is still inaccurate tho.. It has nothing to do with heart rate unless a workout is running.
Until I see an official source confirming what you're saying, I'm going to continue taking it with a grain of salt. Posting it 4 times isn't going to convince anybody.

Thanks.
 
Until I see an official source confirming what you're saying, I'm going to continue taking it with a grain of salt. Posting it 4 times isn't going to convince anybody.

Thanks.

I sincerely hope you are kidding. I have posted the article at least twice now.

Here we go, for a third time:

"Every full minute of movement that equals or exceeds the intensity of a brisk walk counts toward your daily Exercise and Move goals. For wheelchair users, this is measured in brisk pushes. Any activity below this level counts only toward your daily Move goal.

Make sure that you earn Exercise credit during walks by allowing the arm with your Apple Watch to swing naturally. For example, while walking your pet, let the arm with your watch swing freely while the other holds the leash.

If you need both hands while walking, for example to push a stroller, you can still earn Exercise credit by using the Workout app. The Activity app relies on arm motion and an accelerometer to track movement, but the Workout app can use the accelerometer, a heart rate sensor, and the GPS on your iPhone if you carry it with you. Open the Workout app on your Apple Watch, tap Outdoor Walk, and bring your iPhone on the walk."

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204517
 
I sincerely hope you are kidding. I have posted the article at least twice now.
Look, not everybody has as much free time as you to read through pages of bickering. I just looked it up myself and I stand corrected, but I absolutely don't appreciate your self-righteous posting style.
 
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