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I Don't Think Lion Is Very Cool..
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Perhaps in future version, my point is we've been waiting for that and again we don't get any real improvements.
I believe the official attitude of Microsoft was to repackage Vista with a slightly updated UI, and some other tweaks to the system, and watch as people realized how great 7 was. The original release of Vista was bad, and deserved the rap that it got. After that, though, I'm not so sure. In other words, Windows 7 is Windows Vista, repackaged and slightly updated to feel somewhat new.
I don't think that Lion is going to be something amazing and revolutionary; frankly, I'm not sure if that is even possible in the desktop market anymore. People are so entrenched in their thought process that even relatively small changes to how we interact with a computer and its OS can be shocking and disliked to veteran users. For example, Lion is doing something very cool with spaces: instead of continuing to copy and repackage a feature that many Linux distributions have had since the start, Apple is using their expertise of gestures to make them usable and approachable for normal users; however, that isn't without backlash from aficionados that have grown accustomed to the current implementation. In my own experience, I love the way Spaces are in Lion. As a blogger, it's great to swipe between a word processor, image editor, and full screen Safari windows.
I'm not sure how Lion will be when it is finally shipped, but I fully believe that it will be a great upgrade. It will be hard for some, since this is the first update since Leopard that actually tweaked anything in the UI or UX departments (that's half a decade or so to grow accustomed to a certain experience). But, in the end, I look forward to it.
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I like Lion. I think it'll be worth the buy. A Dev Preview isn't really something we should judge by, since it's meant to be used for DEVELOPMENT purposes, not consumer enjoyment.
Major features usually appear in the final release as Apple tends to test them internally. New features are coming, as it was hinted by the WWDC info, focusing only on software. Apple must have a lot to cover if they are not introducing any new hardware. The feature base and UI in Lion has improved dramatically and it adds some great things for devs, such as the AVFoundation, which I will be using a lot and PopOvers. Both of these are in IOS and it is great they are coming to OS X. Another great thing is the updated OpenGL, which will provide users with a much greater graphical experience.
I have no issue with Lion honestly, I reinstalled SL just because for me
1.) it was buggy on my Air and Pro (before I sold it)
2.) More importantly, it killed my battery life compared to SL. And (like right now sitting in English 201...boring) I need my laptop to function for long periods during the day without charge.
1.) it was buggy on my Air and Pro (before I sold it)
2.) More importantly, it killed my battery life compared to SL. And (like right now sitting in English 201...boring) I need my laptop to function for long periods during the day without charge.
You can use all XP compatible apps under Windows 7. Even apps designed for Win 3.11. I think the final version of Lion has a VM with 10.5.8, iirc.
Lion will be two OS iterations from Leopard. And glancing quickly around there is very little difference.
XP --> 7 looks and feels, and even acts quite different.
Leopard ---> Lion... a couple new features and under the hood tweaks.
My current feeling is that Lion is going to be fully previewed at WWDC and it is likely that the current DP won't be updated until June. There are probably going to be new features that'll rock our world at WWDC. If Apple didn't mention the WWDC date and the subtitle of the event, I'd say that we have seen everything and we'd see an update soon to the Lion DP.
As for no new stuff happening in the Desktop OS market, that's not true. We haven't yet reached the full integration with OS and multi-touch technology or the so-called iOS-izing of Mac OS X.
The versions, auto-save, auto-resume features in Lion are very cool and can change the way we work with files in the OS. I just don't know how well it works with the current HFS+ file system, if it had ZFS or BTrFS, it would be the biggest change in Lion. The new file system would also change how Time Machine works with your files in real-time.
The one thing that nobody is aware of is that most of the current applications on the Mac OS platform haven't taken full advantage of all the new APIs features in Snow Leopard. It'd be years before we'd start seeing Lion-optimized apps as well. Apps will become more interactive, extensive and more powerful once it is truly optimized for Snow Leopard and again for Lion.
As for no new stuff happening in the Desktop OS market, that's not true. We haven't yet reached the full integration with OS and multi-touch technology or the so-called iOS-izing of Mac OS X.
The versions, auto-save, auto-resume features in Lion are very cool and can change the way we work with files in the OS. I just don't know how well it works with the current HFS+ file system, if it had ZFS or BTrFS, it would be the biggest change in Lion. The new file system would also change how Time Machine works with your files in real-time.
The one thing that nobody is aware of is that most of the current applications on the Mac OS platform haven't taken full advantage of all the new APIs features in Snow Leopard. It'd be years before we'd start seeing Lion-optimized apps as well. Apps will become more interactive, extensive and more powerful once it is truly optimized for Snow Leopard and again for Lion.
I disagree with this. As more, and more apps make their way into the Mac App Store, Apple will be able to set the criteria however they want, and I could see them requiring or encouraging the developers to work with the new APIs.
It's not that simple. Apple themselves can't even get their iTunes and many of their apps to use the latest APIs and they expect the developers to do the same? There's a reason that Apple opened the Mac App Store on Snow Leopard, they are fully aware that it is damn near impossible for everybody to release the apps on first day of Lion's release date if the apps are required to use Lion's APIs only.
The Mac App Store already encourage developers to use only public APIs, but it will not require developers to use specific API versions unless they want to be marked as "lion ready".
I agree with you that it'd be faster for simple apps to take full advantage of Lion's APIs but not medium-complex apps like Photoshop, Office, iWork/iLife and so on.
Also, using specific Lion APIs mean that the app will not work on Snow Leopard and it take months if not a year before there's over 50% of Lion users in the OS X install base.
I played with it too.
The only thing I liked was clicking the apps button from the quick launch bar.
Otherwise it looks and feels just like SL.
Having server included is a pus thou.
The only thing I liked was clicking the apps button from the quick launch bar.
Otherwise it looks and feels just like SL.
Having server included is a pus thou.
Well there's your problem right there. You glanced.
But really, come on. Look at the time difference between XP 7, and compare that to Leopard and Lion. That's a big difference, my friend, for the computing world.
You should be comparing OS X Cheetah with Lion since Cheetah came out in the same year as Windows XP.
Either way I hope that the final release of Lion brings more to the table than what we have seen. Under the hood stuff I can't comment on just yet because as of right now, it performs worse in about every way compared to SL
Battery life
Memory usage
CPU usage
This is my SL comp usage, with Lion installed, I was at double just about everything (or more) while idling.
I'm sure it'll get cleaned up but right now all we can look to is the UI based changes, and there we see full screen apps....different scroll bars....a launchpad...idk, nothing remarkable.
It's a preview. Of course it isn't going to run as smoothly as a mature version of OS X.
Built in full disk encryption seals the deal for me. Seriously. It makes it all totally worthwhile. Big feature that has been missing.
At the moment, it is what I am looking forward to using the most.
Sadly, it appears Apple still doesn't want to catch up to Windows XP and implement resolution independence. That was the other feature I wanted to see.
Actually, for anyone with a laptop or for Macs in business environments, that's a very important feature.
I didn't say unimportant, but rather sad that its really just about the only major feature that Lion is sporting.