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I just have OneDrive upload any new photos and videos from my iPhone. That way it doesn't matter if you delete them from your phone as they are all still there and accessible from multiple devices.
 
im also very confused.

i have camera roll and my photo stream on my iPhone. and now iCloud photo library beta option, which uploads all your photos to iCloud, but i thought that was the point to photo stream.

them seem to be making something easy, very complicated
 
I just have OneDrive upload any new photos and videos from my iPhone. That way it doesn't matter if you delete them from your phone as they are all still there and accessible from multiple devices.


This is actually a good idea. Use a Microsoft product to store all my photos because Apple doesn't have a proper solution.
 
so iCloud Photo Library isn't to be a service like Dropbox persay? I was under the impression one could just delete photos of ones device yet continue to have it on the iCloud storage?
 
so iCloud Photo Library isn't to be a service like Dropbox persay? I was under the impression one could just delete photos of ones device yet continue to have it on the iCloud storage?


Yea you and a lot of other people. But there's some people in this thread that think we are stupid to want such a convenience offered by Apple.
 
What happens if we enable iCloud photo library and photo stream ? Does it upload the photos to both iCloud types? Is there a need to still use photo stream if I have photo library enabled ?
 
What happens if we enable iCloud photo library and photo stream ? Does it upload the photos to both iCloud types? Is there a need to still use photo stream if I have photo library enabled ?

I would also like to know this. none of my devices are syncing, and can't find any info on how to sync existing photos in iPhoto so have switched it off and returned to photo stream. Having been looking for a cloud based service to store pictures but will probably opt for Dropbox which seems to "just work".
 
I quite like the idea of iCloud Photo Library - keep the full res pic in the cloud and the smaller res pics on the phone. Makes perfect sense.

except viewing the web version (beta.icloud.com) shows a lower resolution.

I do wonder, how am I able to backup my photos if the full rez is on the cloud and my phone has the lower rez.
 
I guess that all iCloud stuff is supposed to be working like Contacts app on Mac.

Either all is in the cloud (on) or all is local (off). You can't store it locally and have separate copies it in iCloud.

It syncs all devices 1:1. If you turn off iCloud on one device, it would ask whether to keep local copies or not,
 
I guess you take a photo, it uploads full res to iCloud, deletes itself, downloads optimized from iCloud back to the phone. point is, how is the optimized quality?

Point is, it's beta..... and it shows .....
 
I thought I would have my All Photos folder and then also a Photo Stream folder (or something similar) where all my photos were stored and stayed forever regardless of what I did within my All Photos folder.

But when I delete a photo from All Photos I get this message "This photo will be deleted from iCloud Photo Library on all your devices". WTF? So All Photos is now iCloud Photo Storage? Ugh. I thought this was going to be clear and simple.

Can anyone explain this to me? If I delete a photo on my phone I want it to stay in the cloud. Isn't that the entire purpose of having iCloud Photo Library?

You can also use iPhoto.
 
Not sure how this is so convoluted for people: Photostream is no more. Now you have a single canonical photo library you can access on any device. iCloud automatically optimises the space on your device by no longer storing the high res version of your photos until you need them.

This is MUCH SIMPLER than the arbitrarily limited photo stream and disparate photo libraries on all your devices which you may or may not sync.
 
If I choose to store optimized versions and then want to upload a photo or video to FB or Vimeo, which version gets uploaded? I assume the optimized version. Would you need to toggle the setting every time you want to share the full quality version? I doubt this would work since it would be for all photos and not just one.
 
Not sure how this is so convoluted for people: Photostream is no more. Now you have a single canonical photo library you can access on any device. iCloud automatically optimises the space on your device by no longer storing the high res version of your photos until you need them.

I think the confusing part is that there still is a Photostream option, even with IPL turned on.

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If I choose to store optimized versions and then want to upload a photo or video to FB or Vimeo, which version gets uploaded? I assume the optimized version. Would you need to toggle the setting every time you want to share the full quality version? I doubt this would work since it would be for all photos and not just one.

As I understand it, when you go to view or share a photo or video, it quickly downloads the full version and that is the version that gets shared - never the optimized version.
 
Not sure how this is so convoluted for people: Photostream is no more. Now you have a single canonical photo library you can access on any device. iCloud automatically optimises the space on your device by no longer storing the high res version of your photos until you need them.

This is MUCH SIMPLER than the arbitrarily limited photo stream and disparate photo libraries on all your devices which you may or may not sync.

Incorrect on the photo stream. If you have it enabled, the photos are shared across all iDevices. If it is not, your photos are still stored in iCloud library, and accessible from the iCloud website, however you are only going to see that devices photos on each device.
 
I just took a bunch of photos on my iPhone from a weekend vacation. I wanted to see them on my iPad when I got back home but for some reason only 4 pics out of several hundred showed up on my iPad.

I then decided to Air Drop them so I could see as that was the only way I knew how to expedite the process since the syncing process really isn't clear to me. Why did only a handful of pictures transfer and not all of them?

But now today I now see duplicates of all the photos I airdropped to my iPad on my iPhone! So now if I delete the duplicates I get a message saying it will also be deleted from iCloud but then they may disappear from the iPad again?

Grrr....
 
I use Dropbox but I'm about to fill up my free storage so I was looking forward to using iCloud Photo Library. I love the idea of iCloud Photo Library but I'll see tonight if its worth it. I suspect we'll see a lot of improvements to the beta version as they start getting feedback and comments.
 
What's story behind pictures older than 30 days being deleted or pics ,ore than 1000? Also are pics in photostream lower quality or no
 
On my iMac I have 375 pictures in my Photo Stream (shared iCloud) - I have zero pictures in iCloud Photos when i go to the www.icloud.com/#photos it says add photos from your devices? How do I get my photos from my iMac to show up on my iPhone or iPad? Or when I go to iCloud www.icloud.com/#photos why does it says my iPhoto library is empty? I am not worried about the Photos I have them backed up just trying to figure how to get them accross all my devices a iPad a iMac and a iPhone and have them on iCloud.
 
As I understand it, when you go to view or share a photo or video, it quickly downloads the full version and that is the version that gets shared - never the optimized version.

So is there any reason NOT to choose optimized versions then?
 
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