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I've had an iPad for almost a year now, found it very underwhelming. Almost all I use it for is reading PDFs; it's too big for on-the-go usage (iPhone), and my RMBP's just about as portable as a 10-inch slab is. Not to mention that there's a big difference in the use case of being able to do whatever you want on a computer, and being severely limited on a tablet.

Overall pretty disappointed; thought that the iPad was supposed to be something useful.
 
and my RMBP's just about as portable as a 10-inch slab is.

Really? Have you tried walking for fifteen minutes with a rMBP in your bag, as opposed to just an iPad in your bag?

My daily commute involves about fifteen minutes of walking, what with walking to the subway, a long transfer between trains, and then walking from the station to the office. It makes a big difference just carrying my iPad as opposed to carrying my MacBook, which is just a 13 inch Air, not a Pro.
 
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Really? Have you tried walking for fifteen minutes with a rMBP in your bag, as opposed to just an iPad in your bag?

My daily commute involves about fifteen minutes of walking, what with walking to the subway, a long transfer between trains, and then walking from the station to the office. It makes a big difference just carrying my iPad as opposed to carrying my MacBook, which is just a 13 inch Air, not a Pro.

Yes, I have. As it turns out, 3 pounds of weight doesn't make or break anything. I guess I'm just used to carrying enough that a 3 pound difference is negligible (and yes, I walk longer than 15 minutes on average).
 
⬆ This.

I completely use my ipad for work and relaxation. As a teacher I develope all my lessons on my ipad. I have more invested in one study app than the cost of my iPad. It's amazing to grab one small device and have a huge library in my hands.

Reading PDF's are great. The iPad has really added to making my travel and study so much easier.

My poor MacBook hardly ever gets used now.

Same here. I'm an educator too and I have several apps for the class room as well as my books on my Kindle and iBooks app and my lessons and presentations in iWork. My MB and Mac Mini are left relatively unused while my iPad is the workhorse.
 
I've got a 64 gig wifi iPad 4, my first iPad which I bought last November.

Love it, use it daily and will always have an iPad.

But let's face it, all I do is use Safari.

I've got 18 gigs used and nearly 40 gigs free, but 15 of that is music which I never listen to on the iPad. I've only got a small handful of apps that I almost never use, except maybe my calculator app here and there.

I have one magazine subscription, so I suppose I do that in addition to Safari.

I'm not a gamer and own no consoles, and have no games on my iPad; I've got 10 or so games on my iPhone, but never play them.

I don't like free apps, they are all guaranteed to be full of ads.

I've spent hours pouring through the app store for quality paid apps, but nothing looks like anything I want or need. I like to think of my iPad as a beast of a tool, but the reality is it's a luxury toy so I should probably think of it as the ultimate entertainment device. Guess that's why I put the music on there.

I don't know, I love it and use it daily but can't help but feel I'm missing out on really experiencing the device and all it can do.

Anyone feel the same?

I think you're not entirely wrong. Sometimes I feel the same way.

The iPad could be so much more.

I mean, it's great for surfing the Internet. I can also read Kindle books on it, and it's good for this purpose. And for reading PDFs and Word files, or reading anything else.

But it's limited. There are plenty of apps developed for it, but what can those apps really do? Facebook? Gmail? We can all access the content of these apps via a web browser.

In fact, the reality is that most apps became irrelevant, either on a tablet or a computer. In my computer, the apps I really use are web browsers, media players, games, messaging and productivity apps.

The iPad comes with a web browser (Safari) and a media player (iTunes), and, while, I can replace them with other apps (such as Google Chrome, for instance), they will still perform the same function.

Messaging? Well, there's Messages and FaceTime, and you can install Skype or something else. There are some games for the iPad as well.

And then there are the productivity apps. In my view, productivity apps are what make computers really useful. Microsoft Office is probably the most used software in the world (apart from operating systems), and there's a reason for that. It's the standard software for office productivity. Everybody who wants to be productive, with no compromises, should take a look at Microsoft Office. There are alternatives, of course: WordPerfect Office, LibreOffice, OpenOffice, iWork, and so on. But the Microsoft suite is the standard, and I'm not getting into which one is better than the other.

Office productivity apps are not the only ones around, though. There are other productivity apps. You may use them for desktop publishing, for creating and editing movies, making web pages, editing photos, and so many other things. It will all depend on what you need. While nearly everybody needs office productivity, not everybody needs to edit photos or create videos.

That's where the iPad fails, in my view. Office productivity is poor on the iPad, and that makes it feel like a toy. There's no Microsoft Office for iPad, even though Microsoft Office is the standard and everyone seems to use it. There are alternatives, but those alternatives seem somewhat sub-par. iWork for iPad, for instance, looks great. But have you tried to use Pages for iPad for two hours? The experience is completely different from using Pages on a Mac. It is difficult to perform complex tasks such adding footnotes. Typing is good with a keyboard, but there's no mouse, and a finger is not half as precise as a mouse pointer. You can't use apps side-by-side. You can't add fonts. There's no file system. Word processing is poor and limited on the iPad, even though word processing is perhaps far more used than any other productivity tool. Keynote provides a better experience, but Numbers is poor.

The bottom line is that the iPad will not be taken seriously unless it can provide for a good productivity experience. And that must encompass office productivity, and not only those creative productivity apps aimed at designers, photographers and movie directors. If there's no general good old fashioned office productivity on the iPad, then the iPad will remain as a luxury toy.

For that, Apple will have to make the iPad more computer-like: allow two simultaneous apps to run side-by-side, provide a better and more precise pointing device, allow more freedom for add-ons and browsing content, and so on. Look at the Microsoft Surface Pro, for instance. You may complain on the battery life, on the screen size and ratio, on the size and weight, on the price, and on several other factors. But you can't say it's useless. It runs Windows and Microsoft Office, and every other productivity app ever released for Windows. A premium office productivity experience makes all the difference.
 
My iPad is used for things not easily done on my laptop. To the above poster, I want my iPad to do what I posted a few messages above this one, not become my office machine.

You seem to want a portable PC/tablet device for business.

For me, the iPad (or any current tablet for that matter) is a perfect fit given that I have a full powered desktop and laptop.

R
 
My iPad is used for things not easily done on my laptop. To the above poster, I want my iPad to do what I posted a few messages above this one, not become my office machine.

You seem to want a portable PC/tablet device for business.

For me, the iPad (or any current tablet for that matter) is a perfect fit given that I have a full powered desktop and laptop.

R

I read your post, and it seems to confirm what I expected. Your activities on the iPad are basically reading, although in different apps and with different purposes. You write occasionally on your iPad, to respond e-mails for instance. That's good and the iPad is a great device for that.

But then the iPad may just be considered as a luxury toy. You can read websites and magazines and answer to e-mails on a laptop. The iPad may be more convenient in doing that, but the laptop does the job as well. One can live without the iPad, and replace it with a laptop. But one cannot live without the laptop because the laptop can perform productivity tasks that the iPad cannot do easily.

It leads me to ask myself: what are Apple's plans to the iPad? What will happen in the future?

I mean, now the iPad is fine, and no laptop can be as convenient as it. The iPad is thinner, lighter and better as a tablet than any convertible laptop/tablet. But that is now.

Intel's new Haswell processor allows even thinner laptops with better battery lives. It allows convertible ultrabooks to become a practical reality, and not the jokes they once were. These machines start to get really interesting. The Haswell processor, paired with IGZO displays, will allow thin machines with very high resolution displays and a great battery life. And Microsoft seems to be fixing the mess that Windows 8 was. This is becoming a reality in 2013, and 2014 will have more of it. In a couple of years, Windows Intel-powered PCs may be smaller, lighter and slimmer than an iPad, and perform every task one could expect from a computer, without the limitations of a today's tablet. While these kinds of devices remain a dream, they will soon merge the intimacy and convenience of an iPad with the power of a true PC.

What will become of the iPad then? Apple is aware of all this, of course. The strategy so far has been completely separating the lines that run iOS from the ones that run OS X. Macs run a fully-featured operating system and are capable of doing everything one can possibly expect from a computer; but they are expensive and have no touch-screen. iPhones and iPads have touch screens and are far cheaper, but they are very limited.

However, Apple focuses its business on the iPhone and the iPad, as they represent the bulk of the revenue. In addition, those devices have the clean design that is so Apple. The iPhone and the iPad are the future for Apple, and Apple's chance to take over the computing world. While Macs were a relative failure in doing that since the 80s (although some products were successful), the iPad and the iPhone are huge successes.

But if the iPad is to fully replace a computer in the future, then it better get some serious stuff and do everything a computer can. Otherwise, it will keep forever being a beautifully designed toy, great for browsing websites and reading e-mails and magazines, but not for real work.
 
It is going to be a very long time before the iPad's have enough computing power AND effective interface mechanisms (mouse, keyboard, etc.) to compete with true laptops.

I have a half terabyte of work stuff, etc., and a mouse is the only way to get through easy creation of Visio's, spreadsheets, etc.

But the iPad is reading, streaming video (and music for some people), in a way that is more mobile and easy to "handle" than a laptop. (i.e, in bed or on the couch). It is also great for super mobile computing / browsing because it has a larger screen than a smart phone and is easier to manipulate (in an airport, for example).

I think this is all this can be, for now... and there is nothing wrong with that.

R
 
It is going to be a very long time before the iPad's have enough computing power AND effective interface mechanisms (mouse, keyboard, etc.) to compete with true laptops.

R

Yes and No.
There are some professions that an iPad is an excellent main computing device. Others, like my wife who is a CPA, it's just not anywhere close. The iPad is not all things to all people...but neither are computers. For some a MBA is all they need but for others they need the power and space of an iMac while others need a MP.

To say an iPad isn't a true competitor for laptops in business, I would say is untrue. Most businesses? Maybe but not all.
 
The iPad is really intended for light computing as are most tablets. Anything heavy and people cut over to laptops. Now what "light computing" boils down to is up to you, but needless to say If I needed to perform tasks in front of a computer for long hours and required lots of typing, last thing I'd want is an iPad. Even typing this would have been easier on a regular computer.
 
I think mobile devices will keep getting more powerful and feature-rich, and desktop / laptops will keep getting lighter and more efficient, until they eventually converge somewhere. All major technology companies recognizes this, but they have differing philosophies on how to get there and what to do in the meanwhile. Apple's strategy seems to be to keep desktops / laptops and mobile devices separate until all the elements are in place to produce a convergent product that gives the best possible user experience. Keep in mind that iOS and OS X run on the same core. It won't take a lot of time for Apple to merge them into one when the time is right.

Also, iPads may not be my main productivity device, but it is the one that I enjoy using the most. I've come to dread sitting down at the desk in front of my iMac or getting out my Air. I tend to put off tasks that require using them as long as possible, while the iPad never leaves my side 24/7. So while it's true that if I were strapped for money and could only have one computing device, I'll have to give up my iPad, as long as there are enough people with enough disposable income that they can afford multiple devices, having the device that people WANT, even if it isn't one that they NEED, isn't a bad way to make money.
 
Depends on what you do.

Im a medical student in Denmark, and I find its uses far superior to a laptop in some cases. Example: Using the interactive anatomy apps I have on it, is a very useful feature in the clinic. Also before the iPad I made my own flashcards by hand. Its much easier to share, create and use flashcards on the iPad.

Just some inspiration ;)
 
The ipad is a tool like anything else. I use mine mostly for browsing, news apps, pdfs, books/comics, catalogs, reading email, movies, some gaming, plus useful apps for weather, unit conversions, monitoring twitter feeds...and calculator! :D
The ipad's retina screen makes it a superior reading device.


The ipad is an extension of my macbook pro, one compliments the other. I can travel on business just with my ipad, and get all my tasks done. That is an accomplishment. The ipad is no toy; I also have a mini-keyboard which comes in handy on occasion.

Man, I had a palm pilot in the 90's and found many uses for that, how things have changed.
 
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My wife and I have an ipad 3 and we both feel you can pretty much just use it for whatever you want. I only use it for internet, and she uses it for internet, streaming tv shows, reading books and the occasional game.

I think it's great if someone can find 20 different things to do with it, but I just wanted it for web browsing while sitting on the couch (instead of having a laptop on my lap) or to look up something quick and it serves that purpose and I am happy with that.

Lastly, I know a lot of people that use an ipad for internet use only. When you think about it, there are a lot of people that have bought desktop or laptop computers and their only intention was internet use.
 
Puma, couple suggestions.

1. Dropbox. Open a dropbox account, put it on your desktop/laptop, then get the dropbox app for ipad. Do it.

Then, when you have documents you need, important things to read, etc., turn them to pdf and put drag them to your Dropbox folder. Then they are automatically available on your iPad. Reading a story on your desktop that is interesting? Print to pdf and put it in dropbox. Need some instructions or contract documents? Dropbox them, then they are on your iPad, ready to go where you go. Set up folders in dropbox, etc., you can organize everything this way.

Then you can have these materials with you everywhere you go. I will regularly look at news articles, stories, etc. using dropbox on iPad.

2. Ebooks. iBook reader and iPad are fantastic for ebooks, best ebook reader out there in my opinion. iBook reader on iPad alone is worth the iPad, you can carry tons of books, how-to manuals, reports .

3. TuneIn Radio. Another free app. Listen to any radio station, AM or FM, from anywhere in the country. You can search and listen by show, station, city, state, even country. TuneIn Radio is one of the best apps ever, it brings worldwide radio content to your iPad. Fantastic.

4. Get your contacts synced, put in a good alarm clock, get some free Newstand subscriptions, and anything else that interests you. Makes your iPad a great all-in-one travel device. My chick uses hers like nuts when traveling or on vacation. It has everything she needs info-wise, including books, reading material, contacts, alarm clock, documents, everything.

5. Podcasts. Whatever you are interested in, there are great shows. Personally, I like Radiolab and Startalk, super-smart people discussing science and technology and research.
 
I don't use my iPad3 that much either. The good news is that my wife uses it everyday, so it's not a paperweight. I don't game, and I don't like surfing on iOS that much. It's clumsy, especially with 1Password. I will listen to music on my iP5 or nano. I don't commute on public transit so portability is not an issue.
I really thought that an iPad Mini would be a perfect companion to my laptop but after a week I returned the Mini.

Surfing on my rMBP is MUCH faster. I could be using Lightroom 5, listening to my iTunes library, updating some spreadsheets.......all at once. Can't wait for Mavericks!

And yet, despite all that, I'm still looking forward to iPad 5.
 
I've got a 64 gig wifi iPad 4, my first iPad which I bought last November.

Love it, use it daily and will always have an iPad.

But let's face it, all I do is use Safari.

I've got 18 gigs used and nearly 40 gigs free, but 15 of that is music which I never listen to on the iPad. I've only got a small handful of apps that I almost never use, except maybe my calculator app here and there.

I have one magazine subscription, so I suppose I do that in addition to Safari.

I'm not a gamer and own no consoles, and have no games on my iPad; I've got 10 or so games on my iPhone, but never play them.

I don't like free apps, they are all guaranteed to be full of ads.

I've spent hours pouring through the app store for quality paid apps, but nothing looks like anything I want or need. I like to think of my iPad as a beast of a tool, but the reality is it's a luxury toy so I should probably think of it as the ultimate entertainment device. Guess that's why I put the music on there.

I don't know, I love it and use it daily but can't help but feel I'm missing out on really experiencing the device and all it can do.

Anyone feel the same?

Sounds to me like you may have been better off buying a smaller capacity 3G model. You may get more use out of it if you can browse from anywhere.
 
...But if the iPad is to fully replace a computer in the future, then it better get some serious stuff and do everything a computer can. Otherwise, it will keep forever being a beautifully designed toy, great for browsing websites and reading e-mails and magazines, but not for real work.

In regards to your point about Office. It s the standard for productivity, but not everyone needs all those features. Lots of people just need the features that you have in iPad productivity software. Its similar to how we're seeing that not everyone needs a full computer to do the thigns they use a computer for. Lots of people do fine with the capabilities of an iPad. Especially if their job where they do work, gives them a computer to use at work. At home they will do fine with something lighter.

I don't need it to replace a computer, I'm fine with them being separate devices. I used my iPad for things it excels at and my computer for things it excells at. Computers will become thinner and lighter, but they won't be able to match the thinness and lightness of a dedicated tablet. And as we've seen with Surface, you just can't use it on your lap without it falling over which is how I use my laptop a lot of times. Once you get into convertibles then you add thickness and weight. Once you get into powerful latops, then you get into thickness and heat. I understand that people want one single device to do everything they need without compromises in any direction, but convergence isn't the solution for everything.
 
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In regards to your point about Office. It s the standard for productivity, but not everyone needs all those features. Lots of people just need the features that you have in iPad productivity software. Its similar to how we're seeing that not everyone needs a full computer to do the thigns they use a computer for. Lots of people do fine with the capabilities of an iPad. Especially if their job where they do work, gives them a computer to use at work. At home they will do fine with something lighter.

I don't need it to replace a computer, I'm fine with them being separate devices. I used my iPad for things it excels at and my computer for things it excells at. Computers will become thinner and lighter, but they won't be able to match the thinness and lightness of a dedicated tablet. And as we've seen with Surface, you just can't use it on your lap without it falling over which is how I use my laptop a lot of times. Once you get into convertibles then you add thickness and weight. Once you get into powerful latops, then you get into thickness and heat. I understand that people want one single device to do everything they need without compromises in any direction, but convergence isn't the solution for everything.

In fact, that is pretty much what happens.

Most people is happy with the iPad being what it is and being capable of doing what it does. The iPad is good at browsing the Internet, watching vídeos, reading books and magazines, drafting short answers to e-mails and doing other basic and light things. People who are happy with using only the iPad are those people who don't have the need to use application which are more complex. It's usually the mass of people who are not interested in computers at all, and just want the iPad because it's a beautiful and fancy device and don't want it to perform any
complicated task.

I've also seen people bashing the iPad for being just a big iPhone. My girlfriend calls my iPad a useless device, since everything she can do with the iPad she can also do with the iPhone, despite the iPad being much larger. The iPad is an expensive device, and one could buy a laptop for the price of it.

But there are also those people who like the iPad being what it is, and also use the computer to do the things the iPad can't do. I try to fit in this category, but I just can't. I look at the iPad, I see its beautiful screen and I want it to be so much more. There's so much potential on it which is simply not used at all. There are lots of times in which I'm reading or surfing the Internet in my iPad, and then I feel like working or writing a paper. I just have to switch to the computer because the iPad can't do all the things I want. When I travel, I have to carry the computer with me, because, if I have to work during my trip, I won't be able to do it with my iPad.

You talked about the Surface. When I first saw the Microsoft Surface, I thought the device had a lot of potential. It was, of course, far from perfect. The screen had a low resolution; it run Windows RT; it was heavier than the iPad; the trackpad in the TypeCover was terrible (and the keyboard was not exactly good either). But I saw it like a beta version of what would come in the future.

Those tablets and convertibles running Ivy Bridge processors are really bulky, hot and have poor battery life. But Haswell tablets are looking much more promising. Intel's BayTrail platform looks good for thin-and-light, yet full-featured tablets. Apple will probably make the iPad thinner and more powerful, but will that be enough?

In a generation or two, tablets with Intel processors will become thin, light and cool and, yet, they will be full-featured computers. They'll be able to do everything the iPad can currently do, and so much more. People may start questioning why do they need both an iPad and a laptop, when they can have a convertible tablet for so much less. It's not happening today, but in a short time. I've seen some Haswell tablets that really impressed me. Tomorrow, Microsoft will hold an event tomorrow to show the second generation of Surface tablets. I'm curious about what Microsoft has in its sleeves. The first generation Surface was good, but it felt like the tech was not ready yet. Surface 2 will probably be much better. I guess Apple should have something in the cards too, but, after seeing iOS 7, I still think it has a long way to go.
 
I think Apple is working on a hybrid device currently but are waiting until they have solved issues they see as compromises.

You can look at 7 being 64bit as future proof against iOS devices being more powerful versions of themselves, or you can look at is as necessary to allow for a future hybrid OSX.
 
In a generation or two, tablets with Intel processors will become thin, light and cool and, yet, they will be full-featured computers. They'll be able to do everything the iPad can currently do, and so much more.

But the iPad won't stay the same, either. The new A7 chip in iPhone 5S is, as was pointed out during the keynote, a "desktop class" processor. I think all the hardware is in place now for iPad to act as a convertible tablet / laptop. Apple just has to write the software for it. And if Apple lives up to its past standards, it will mostly just work from day one, not be a half-baked mess like Windows 8.

I do think convergent devices are the future, but Microsoft's mistake is pushing devices to market before the hardware technology is quite there. They spent a decade pushing tablet computers while they were still too heavy, too limited and too expensive, and was blindsided when Apple introduced the iPhone / iPad. They are doing the same with their push for Win8 hybrid devices. And personally, I think history is going to repeat itself, and Apple will be the first to make a hybrid device that just works, leaving Microsoft's attempts in the dust. But we'll see what happens!
 
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