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REALLY?????
It cost as much as the 13inch macbook retina WITH more power...more ports..
more screen estate and resolution AND more battery too.

Apple??
Are you going crazy or something....I assume it was going to cost at most $1000 for it...But even the updated 13 inch AIR has more features for LESS price. I don't understand what is going on with Apple's pricing team.
Look at the stupid Mac Mini... soldered parts and expensive for such a weak outdated system and the Apple watch...Same story.
The iPad Air 2 only cost $500 and it has touch screen and a more powerful processor than the 12inch macbook.
So does that mean the iPad Pro is going to cost over $1000 :O ? I am thinking yes. But Apple is unfair with the price.
The macbook 13 retina and iPad is priced PERFECTLY for being a Apple device compared to everything else.
It's a VERY beautiful device...But $1300 for something that has way less features than the 13inch air except the resolution/design at a higher price....It does not even have a 720 Facetime camera -__- come on Apple...COMPROMISES at a HIGHER Price ? It's iPad 3 / Air 2008 all over again.
no thanks. Not sure if people understand what I mean by all of this. :(
 
While I don't agree with the price, generally speaking, you pay a premium to to miniaturize technology. Took a lot of R&D to make a laptop that small...and you're gonna pay a premium for it (at first)
 
That's the cost of being an "early adopter". Things will even out in a year or two.

On a related note, I look at the Core M CPU with no small amount of dubiety. This product is clearly not targeted towards somebody like me, so I'll most likely skip it. Probably a good item for Facebook, audio/video viewing, and general word processing or web surfing.

Then again, that's why people usually buy an iPad or an existing Macbook Air. Product differentiation is somewhat blurred after today's announcement. I suspect there will be some trimming of the product "fat" in the coming years. (Macbook Air switched to single size, or dropped completely within a couple years, etc.)
 
While I don't agree with the price, generally speaking, you pay a premium to to miniaturize technology. Took a lot of R&D to make a laptop that small...and you're gonna pay a premium for it (at first)

What he said. Also, couple that with Color options.
 
Apple first gen hardware is always gimped, often intentionally. Never buy first gen Apple hardware.
 
what others have said, above. you're paying for new tech...and in that regard, the price seems about what one can expect from apple.plus the ipad runs iOS. a mac runs OS X. there's a huge difference right there...
 
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Reminds me of the time I bought the original Macbook Air for $1799 (the SSD option was $3499). At the time it had an 80GB iPod mini HD, 2GB of RAM, 4 hours of battery, and a crippled processor.

People were fussing over it not having an optical drive built-in. The same way people are fussing over missing ports today.

Just a few years later, you got SSD standard, 4GB RAM standard, etc. and it's half the price.

My prediction is that in 2-3 years this will be the standard MacBook. People will have USB-C flash drives, use more wireless peripherals, and no one will think twice about getting a computer equipped with just USB-C.

The same way no one is complaining about NOT a single "new" Apple computer having optical drives, not even their desktops.

I further predict that after another one or two generations of this hardware, the price will drop to $899 or $999 and it will "replace" the existing Air line the way the Pro's have all been replaced by the Retina ones (I am sure they will drop the "retina" moniker as soon as the final non-retina model is discontinued).

That's why they named it "MacBook" instead of adding a suffix, because that makes it easy to drop "Air" models and you're left with MacBook and MacBook Pro, just like the good ol' days.

In the mean time, I think it is a dream machine for internet entrepreneurs and digital nomads. Lighter than the 11" so even better for travel, without making a compromise on screen quality or battery life.

Not sure how it compares horsepower wise, but I am sure by Gen 2 or 3 the benchmarks will be adequate for most buyers.
 
In the mean time, I think it is a dream machine for internet entrepreneurs and digital nomads. Lighter than the 11" so even better for travel, without making a compromise on screen quality or battery life.

That's exactly why I'm getting it! I fall under that category. I just couldn't live with a non-Retina screen, so that's why I switched from the 11" Air to the 13" rMBP. But now I'm definitely picking up this 12" MB on day one.
 
You forgot the keyboard ! I bet it feels really ackward to type on

what i love about these forums...:rolleyes: all the reviews in advance of experience. yet apple (while hardly perfect), is rarely hopeless. so, i need to TRY the keyboard, hold the macbook, run it thru a few paces...BEFORE i review it.

seems logical, doesn't it? let it be released, read the reviews, check the benchmarks, and check it out in person. then decide what's good... or isn't...
 
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REALLY?????
It cost as much as the 13inch macbook retina WITH more power...more ports..
more screen estate and resolution AND more battery too.

What's not to get? Thin and light notebooks have ALWAYS come at a premium for cost per spec over their bigger\bulkier counterparts... this is no different. Have you priced out a Sony Vaio lately compared to same specs on a full size laptop? Nothing to scream about here. I actually saw $1299 and was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting $1399 or $1499 for 8gb of RAM and 256 gb flash.

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You forgot the keyboard ! I bet it feels really ackward to type on

You want awkward? Try a Surface keyboard.

Not sure why you think it feels awkward to type on. They specifically addressed the fact that they paid special attention to detail to create a user-friendly experience on the new MB.

I think my Air feels awkward to type on.... so same or better with the new under-key tech is a welcome!
 
It is a simple strategy. The macbook Air will be gone in 2 years...and in 2 years this Macbook will be done to 1099$.
So macbook starting for 1099$ and the macbook pro starting at 1299$ (or maybe another cut down to 1199$)
Let's not forget that the macbook pro already took 2 cuts down to its price..and the new macbook is completely new to the market

The macbook air and the classic 13" macbook pro will be remove in maximum of 2 years
 
I was actually pleasantly surprised that 8GB of RAM is the standard with that much storage.

You are paying for their newest product. In time I bet it will hit $1,099
 
I just priced the new 11" MBA with 8gb ram 256gb ssd and it's only $100 less than the macbook. Decisions...
 
I just priced the new 11" MBA with 8gb ram 256gb ssd and it's only $100 less than the macbook. Decisions...

Depends on your usage, I like the new Macbook as an ultra portable, equally the lack of ports are a concern for me, and want to see some real world tests on the Core M performance.

Think I will skip this one and wait on the next generation, as with all Apple`s new products it takes them a generation to work out the kinks, and by then USB C will likely be more prolific, as you can guarantee the day you most need a USB C adaptor will the the day you forget it or lose it :p

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The same way no one is complaining about NOT a single "new" Apple computer having optical drives, not even their desktops.

Not sure where you're getting that, but in my experience (which is admittedly just anecdotal), many people buying new macs, especially iMacs, are unhappy with the lack of optical drive. It doesn't necessarily stop them from buying it, but most people who have talked to me about buying new macs recently have expressed dismay that no optical drive is available.

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REALLY?????
It cost as much as the 13inch macbook retina WITH more power...more ports..
more screen estate and resolution AND more battery too.

To be fair, not quite. Configure both the rmbp and new MacBook with 8gb ram and 256gb ssd and the pro is $1500 while the MacBook is $1300. Admittedly you can get a 13" retina pro with only 128 ssd, and that costs $1300, but the fair comparison is to the model with the same storage.

To me, the even worse comparison is to the MacBook airs, where an 11" with 8/256 is $100 less and the 13" with 8/256 is the same as the MacBook. The airs are themselves super slim and light but also far more powerful with far more ports. All you're really getting with the MacBook as compared to the airs is the retina display.
 
what i love about these forums...:rolleyes: all the reviews in advance of experience. yet apple (while hardly perfect), is rarely hopeless. so, i need to TRY the keyboard, hold the macbook, run it thru a few paces...BEFORE i review it.

seems logical, doesn't it? let it be released, read the reviews, check the benchmarks, and check it out in person. then decide what's good... or isn't...

That was based on a review I read after the keynote, where the press get to play with them.

When I saw the presentation, the first thing I thought about the KB design was, what is the con of making it so thin.

And you are correct, one has to try it. I was replying to a cynical post with a cynical reply though ;)

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What's not to get? Thin and light notebooks have ALWAYS come at a premium for cost per spec over their bigger\bulkier counterparts... this is no different. Have you priced out a Sony Vaio lately compared to same specs on a full size laptop? Nothing to scream about here. I actually saw $1299 and was pleasantly surprised. I was expecting $1399 or $1499 for 8gb of RAM and 256 gb flash.

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You want awkward? Try a Surface keyboard.

Not sure why you think it feels awkward to type on. They specifically addressed the fact that they paid special attention to detail to create a user-friendly experience on the new MB.

I think my Air feels awkward to type on.... so same or better with the new under-key tech is a welcome!

Just based on a review I read. Don't worry I will try it in the Apple Store. Though maybe there is a con to making it so thin ? It looks like it has less feedback???
 
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