Other I find it funny there are no benchmarks test for the iPhone xs/xs max

Knockoutjosie

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makes me think how faster it is than the x
Funny they wait near the time we get to pick up our new phones
 

Erasmus

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Huh? There are leaked Geekbench and Antutu scores.

It's not like you can't wait a few weeks for thorough reviews. iPhones don't stop being sold after launch day.

EDIT: Also, unless you're playing games or trying to do some desktop-grade computing on your phone, it's not like any processing improvements will be noticeable in general use at this point.
 

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Huh? There are leaked Geekbench and Antutu scores.

It's not like you can't wait a few weeks for thorough reviews. iPhones don't stop being sold after launch day.

EDIT: Also, unless you're playing games or trying to do some desktop-grade computing on your phone, it's not like any processing improvements will be noticeable in general use at this point.
If that is the case, I find it interesting that someone would purchase a phone before learning if it is even an upgrade or worth the extra cost.
 

Knockoutjosie

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Geek bench scores are all over the place. Particularly YouTube videos.

Apples claims were true.

About 15% increase with cpu and 50% faster gpu.

Coupled with the 4GB of ram it’s. substantial year on year upgrade.
Find me a YouTube video then ? I been looking none stop
 

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If that is the case, I find it interesting that someone would purchase a phone before learning if it is even an upgrade or worth the extra cost.
I don't get it either.

I think Apple does not present Geekbench/Antutu/3dMark results of their phones (or computers) is that they are not interested in promoting benchmark numbers as proof of processor power, over real-world use cases.

I think Apple does not advertise any real-world speed increases because at this point, it's hard to find software where it would be noticeable. For GPU performance, you'd have to find a currently available game that cannot run at 60fps capped on the A11. The only CPU things I can really think of is filtering or exporting times in iMovie, but I'd be surprised if that stuff isn't more or less instantaneous at this point anyway.

Either way, it's clear that the A12 is faster than the A11, and that both blow away the Android competition.
 
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Serious question. Why do you care what someone else does with their money?
People post comments and influence other peoples opinions and decisions leading to a false narrative. Personal opinions are fine, but they are much more credible when accompanied by facts and not opinions.
 

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Anandtech is my go to tech review for benchmark comparison of smartphones. They usually take a full month after the release of the iPhone every year. Super complete data in graphical format so you can see it visually too/
 
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Also, I do not believe Apple is aiming for iPhone X users to upgrade to the Xs. Obviously they would like them to, but it's not going to be marketed that way. The way Apple pushed increasing the lifespan and recyclability of iPhones in the keynote made that clear. Another clear indication is that Apple push new system updates to old iOS devices for something like 6 years. Who else does that??? (I don't hold the view that iOS updates slow down older devices. I have never had that problem, and more likely hardware deterioration over time is to blame.)

I think this site collects people who upgrade their iPhone every year. Outside of this echo-chamber, I suspect the overwhelming majority of people hang on to iPhones for 3-4 years.

The end result is that Apple do NOT have to produce an iPhone every year which justifies itself as an overwhelming upgrade over the previous gen. Making everything a little bit better is what Apple has done, and is more than enough to justify the Xs. Expecting anything more is simply unreasonable.
 
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...(I don't hold the view that iOS updates slow down older devices. I have never had that problem, and more likely hardware deterioration over time is to blame.)
LOL 'hardware deterioration'? Software updates do slow down devices but it's expected behavior. It's not some scheme by Apple or other manufactures to get you to upgrade sooner, it's the nature of the beast. As hardware gets older, it cannot handle the increased overhead of the new software. Computers and other devices have been like this since the beginning.

Keeping your device on the original OS will ensure that it (the OS) never slows down, but it's not recommended for obvious reasons, but it's not the hardware's fault.
 
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Single core performance is 10-15% faster. Multi core performance is 5-10% slower.
 

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Geek bench scores are at 11448 multi core and a 4828 single core not that much off a bump if you won the silcon lottery with ur iPhone X my one will bench at 4350 single and 10370 multi core so only about a 1k multi bump and like 500 single core score bump to be honest you won’t even feel a difference if you hit the jack pot with ur X if you were unlucky and got a x that only benches 9k then you will probably feel it
 

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Huh? There are leaked Geekbench and Antutu scores.

It's not like you can't wait a few weeks for thorough reviews. iPhones don't stop being sold after launch day.

EDIT: Also, unless you're playing games or trying to do some desktop-grade computing on your phone, it's not like any processing improvements will be noticeable in general use at this point.
I beg to differ.

watch 1:56

That camera focusing speed is incredible, and definitely far faster than my 8+
 

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LOL 'hardware deterioration'? Software updates do slow down devices but it's expected behavior. It's not some scheme by Apple or other manufactures to get you to upgrade sooner, it's the nature of the beast. As hardware gets older, it cannot handle the increased overhead of the new software. Computers and other devices have been like this since the beginning.

Keeping your device on the original OS will ensure that it (the OS) never slows down, but it's not recommended for obvious reasons, but it's not the hardware's fault.
I find it hard to justify calling the extra overhead caused by the addition of new features 'slowing down'. It's still running fast, it's just spending more time doing other stuff in the background.

And hardware DOES deteriorate over time. Obvious case is the battery, which not only loses its maximum charge, but also reduces in maximum power output. Transistors also deteriorate over time. Slowly, but they do, especially if they get hot.
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I beg to differ.
That camera focusing speed is incredible, and definitely far faster than my 8+
I was mostly thinking about more traditional types of processing, like video transcoding, and other stuff that people don't really do on a phone. So fair cop, you're right.

Also, anything involving deep learning will be vastly improved, so I was wrong there too.

But the A12 is not going to make "safari feel snappier" if I dare to stoop to such a tired old phrase, nor play videos or view photos better (the screen will though), or speed up browsing Facebook and Twitter, or a lot of other things people spend a lot of time doing on their phones.

One caveat on the faster refocussing is that I thought that was what the "focus pixels" were supposed to do at some non-CPU hardware level, but I'm not sure: Maybe they were improved?
 
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