Discussion in 'Alternatives to Mac Hardware' started by RUGGLES99, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. RUGGLES99 macrumors 6502

    Feb 9, 2015
    Ever since I got a Microsoft Surface Pro 4 and the 11" Surface 3 I hardly use my MBP and my 1st generation base, gold RMB. The Surfaces are just so much more flexible as 2-in-1s with touch screens, etc. It's clear apple has fallen so far behind if you give the surface/surface books a try. and so less expensive than macs.
  2. c0ppo macrumors 65816


    Feb 11, 2013
    Well, I also think that Apple has fallen behind. But not because lack of touchscreen and 2in1 devices. I hate that my keyboard is stuck, I hate adapters and dongles, and I really hate 'make it thinner' culture that prevails in Apple.

    I have tried Surface Book, and I simply didn't find it suiting me at all. And no, windows has got nothing to do with it, since I use windows 10 all the time.

    But ok, I really don't like tablets at all. It doesn't matter if they are iOS, Android or Windows. In my line of work, I found no use for them. Except media consumption. But even there I find macbook 12 to be a better option.

    Maybe if I were a graphic artists or something similar, then I wound find SB to be excellent or better then MBP. But I don't deal with photos or drawing :)
  3. macbookpro-file macrumors newbie


    Dec 8, 2016
    Montreal, QC
    It's really a question of personal needs, and that's what it comes down to. I still use my 2012 model for typing. I've used it for audio production and mixing when a dual core was still sufficient, which it still can be for light usage, but yea,

    I wish MBPs would have followed trend, improved on cooling efficiency instead of making it thinner so we could actually maximize our processors, at least those of us that have that need.
  4. RUGGLES99 thread starter macrumors 6502

    Feb 9, 2015
    As I stated I got the SP4 not the SB. I wanted something far slimmer and lighter and didn't need the extreme power of the SB. Microsoft is about to bring out the SP5, and I'm hoping for a Surface 4 to replace the Surface 3, which is so far superior to any Ipad I have ever owned.

  5. MacDawg macrumors Core


    Mar 20, 2004
    "Between the Hedges"
    I used a Surface Pro 4 for work and hated it
    Just traded it in for a Dell laptop about 2 weeks ago
    Sorry I didn't do it sooner

    It all depends on what you are trying to accomplish, your personal preferences, workflow, etc.
    For my purposes, the Dell laptop is far and away superior to the SP4

    Or course I prefer my MBP at home and my MBA I keep at work
    But I need my work issued laptop for many things, and the SP4 just didn't fit my needs

    Clearly no device is perfect for everyone
  6. xb2003 macrumors 6502


    Jan 18, 2016
    I'm not sure whether or not to take this thread seriously.
  7. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I used a SP and SB, and to be honest, I prefer the Surface Book over the Surface Pro
  8. Freyqq macrumors 601

    Dec 13, 2004
    I have a SP4 and a late 2013 15" rMBP. Both have their uses. the rMBP is much more powerful with a quad core processor, dGPU, and 16 gb of ram. The keyboard and trackpad is also better. So for content creation and gaming, it's what I use. For the SP4, it's amazing for content consumption on the go. Basically a tablet with a core i5 processor, so very fast, for what it is, with a nice screen.
  9. KieranDotW macrumors 6502a


    Apr 12, 2012
    I agree, the clickbait title is very off-putting.

    Nevertheless, I'll bite. I've actually been considering either the SP4 or SB for a month or so now. I've been in the Apple ecosystem for six years and had my current MBP for five of those. I'm not in dire need of a replacement, but I may want an upgrade soon.

    I actually am a graphic designer, which is much of the reason why Surface seems so appealing. They seem to be cornering that market more than Apple at the moment. I know macOS is the industry standard (or so I'm lead to believe, I'm not sure if that's still the case) but at the same time it feels silly to spend an extra $1000 premium on every machine I buy just for the OS.
  10. Queen6 macrumors 604


    Dec 11, 2008
    Flying over the rainforest at dawn - Priceless
    SP4 not enough battery runtime for my needs, and I am more notebook orientated, equally my Retina Mac's are fast becoming little more than media centres having replaced Apple as the provider of my 13" notebook solution with Microsoft's Surface Book.

    In many respects Surface Book is the notebook I once envisaged only Apple would be capable of producing, had some suggested 5 years ago I would opt for Windows, let alone a Microsoft product I would have just laughed. Spin forward; SurfaceBook is without any doubts the best notebook I have used or owned, with my sights firmly on Surface Book 2.

    Apple still produces very nice hardware, equally have given up on Apple as a provider for my professional solutions; being not current, not practical and not representing the value Mac's once did. To me Apple today seems intent on milking the PC space as much as possible while the going is good, like others I am voting with my wallet, both personally & professionally...


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