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If you call what came with my IPad a manual then ...

1.5 seconds is an eternity BTW compared with sliding the "mute" switch to off.

Get real you guys they didn't make this change in some willy nilly manner, it came because most people preferred it.

Really -- did Apple solicit a vote of all iPad owners to determine what most people preferred? ;)
 
Get real you guys they didn't make this change in some willy nilly manner, it came because most people preferred it.

I find it hard to believe that this is so. I understand that for those who use the device in meetings and classrooms, this is a welcome change.

But those people must be a subset of all users, and all users will need to lock the orientation at times.

Anjinha/ngenerator: is it called a mute switch at all? I haven't yet seen the official documentation.

All you actually see is an ambiguous icon that looks like it's going to cut all sound, even though it isn't quite the same icon shown when sound is reduced to zero.
 
Well I find the mute switch pretty useless, but the only reason I used the orientation lock was because it was so finicky before, which has pretty much been fixed in 4.2. Would rather have it a lock switch, but I haven't had a problem with orientation since.

Funny, I haven't heard anyone mention the iPad's new behavior when switching orientations when they're talking about the change to the switch.
 
Well I find the mute switch pretty useless, but the only reason I used the orientation lock was because it was so finicky before, which has pretty much been fixed in 4.2. Would rather have it a lock switch, but I haven't had a problem with orientation since.

Funny, I haven't heard anyone mention the iPad's new behavior when switching orientations when they're talking about the change to the switch.

What new behavior? Can't say I've noticed anything different. :confused:
 
"Really -- did Apple solicit a vote of all iPad owners to determine what most people preferred?"

Personally I would love for every big company to do things my personal way but, they don't.

Apple didn't become a multi-billion dollar company because they sell stuff people don't like or want.
:apple:
 
Personally I would love for every big company to do things my personal way but, they don't.

Apple didn't become a multi-billion dollar company because they sell stuff people don't like or want.
:apple:

True, but they aren't perfect, and have made mistakes in the past. Just because this time they decided to make the hardware switch a mute switch doesn't prove one way or other if the majority of users wanted that or not.
 
Am I reading this right? a big commotion about where the switch for a certain function is or is not on an iPad? There is still the function for locking the orientation facility but in a different place, and probably takes about a half second more to activate. Honest fellas, take a look at yourselves.
 
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Really -- did Apple solicit a vote of all iPad owners to determine what most people preferred? ;)

No, but they do get feedback from users and they have made changes in the past based on that.

Plus most likely this was going to be a mute switch all along and a lot of people complained when the iPad came out and it was an orientation lock.

I find it hard to believe that this is so. I understand that for those who use the device in meetings and classrooms, this is a welcome change.

But those people must be a subset of all users, and all users will need to lock the orientation at times.

Just because the people who preferred the orientation lock are more vocal doesn't mean they're the majority.

Anjinha/ngenerator: is it called a mute switch at all? I haven't yet seen the official documentation.

Yes, it's officially called a mute switch.
 
Just because the people who preferred the orientation lock are more vocal doesn't mean they're the majority.

True, but it also doesn't mean they aren't the majority, either.

Right now, nobody knows which group is the majority. For all we know, maybe the majority of users are indifferent and don't care at all. If Apple conducted a survey or have otherwise gauged user response, they sure aren't going to tell us what it is.
 
Hate is a strong reaction.

As I understand it, the change was made to make the function consistent with the way iOS uses this switch on the iPhone. There it makes sense. You go into a meeting and flip the switch to stop ringing and other notification sounds.
 
I was irritated at first, but I've gotten used to the new arrangement.

I think it would have been better if Apple put the rotation lock icon in the first group of icons when you double tap the home button. I can see from an information architecture stand point why they put it one left-swipe away with the audio controls.

Most of the time I use the switch, I'm setting it before showing other people something on the screen. It would be nicer if it was a few less gestures to get to.
 
I wasn' t too concerned when I heard about the change. I find the volume jumping all the way to off by holding a bit annoying an figured that would change considering the mute switch is right there but it didn't. My issue with the change is that my girlfriend uses the iPad strictly locked in landscape and muted. So in hindsight it was nice to have both controls right next to each other without the extra button pushing.
 
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