I hated iOS 7 look until I installed it......

[Night Spring]

It's easily the best IOS released and it's just a beta so the GM I'm sure will be amazing.
I like the new icons and the new text font, it's different and fits more.
To the person who said the new text font makes him edgy and tired, I really think you might have bigger issues.

My issue is that I have bad eyesight. And my vision problem is not completely corrected by glasses. So staring at thin, hard-to-see fonts make me tired, and edgy.

Plus, of course different fonts make you feel different ways, otherwise why would designers bother with different font styles? You just happen to like the way the new fonts make you feel, so you are unsympathetic to people who don't like that feeling. I mean, for some people edgy is cool. But I don't like feeling edgy. That's all.

 

[KenAFSPC]

To the person who said the new text font makes him edgy and tired, I really think you might have bigger issues.

The new font is more difficult to read, especially for those with less-than-perfect vision, which makes the iPhone much more fatiguing to use on a daily basis. Plus, with certain backgrounds, the text on the home screen is difficult to read even if you have perfect vision.

 

[C DM]

It's easily the best IOS released and it's just a beta so the GM I'm sure will be amazing.
I like the new icons and the new text font, it's different and fits more.
To the person who said the new text font makes him edgy and tired, I really think you might have bigger issues.

Yeah the bigger issue is that not everyone likes change simply because of change and because it would be some cool or hip thing. A lot of people actually look for usefulness, usability, and other kinds of things with real world importance.

 

[batting1000]

This is so ridiculous... ITS BETA #1!!!
Of course it's a "work in progress". Why is this even a discussion???

With past betas, the update was around 95% done and all that was left was very minor tweaking and bug fixes. If you look at beta 1 of iOS 6, for example, and compare it to the final release, you'd notice that not much changed at all visually and functionally. I don't mean a "work in progress" as in its going to be improved a little before it comes out and it's going to be become more stable. Obviously that'll happen. What I mean is that because iOS 7 is such a large departure from iOS 6 and because the team working on it only had roughly 7 months, things will likely change visually and functionally more than past iOS betas.

 

[VulchR]

My issue is that I have bad eyesight. And my vision problem is not completely corrected by glasses. So staring at thin, hard-to-see fonts make me tired, and edgy....

I totally agree, and suffer from a similar problem since my eyesight is poor. As the population in the West gets older, the readability of the text on mobile devices is going to become an important issue. I just hope that at some point Apple, Google, MS etc. will wake up and smell the coffee and start using scientific principles of visual perception to guide their design choices. Indeed, I wonder if some design fly a little too close to outright discrimination against those with impaired vision.

 

[LastZion]

Ya, I love it too. Its been over a week and I still love playing with my phone. Think its smooth.

 

[Zaid]

I totally agree, and suffer from a similar problem since my eyesight is poor. As the population in the West gets older, the readability of the text on mobile devices is going to become an important issue. I just hope that at some point Apple, Google, MS etc. will wake up and smell the coffee and start using scientific principles of visual perception to guide their design choices. Indeed, I wonder if some design fly a little too close to outright discrimination against those with impaired vision.

You do know that the os allows you to increase the size of the font that gets used in most of the UI right? and with accessibility mode you can increase even beyond that if you really have very poor eyesight.

 

[Night Spring]

You do know that the os allows you to increase the size of the font that gets used in most of the UI right? and with accessibility mode you can increase even beyond that if you really have very poor eyesight.

Have you tried turning on those options? They only change the font in certain apps. Most of the UI are not affected by turning on those options. If they are supposed to, then there is a massive bug.

 

[slffl]

Apple has me hooked. It doesn't matter what the next iPhone or version of iOS offers, I'll purchase it. The Apple ecosystem is what has me locked in... Airplay, iCloud, et cetera.

Yup same here. It's the trifecta of using an iPhone, iPad, and iMac together seamlessly. I LOVE it!

 

[Zaid]

Have you tried turning on those options? They only change the font in certain apps. Most of the UI are not affected by turning on those options. If they are supposed to, then there is a massive bug.

Well they use a new framework, so I wouldn't expect all the apps to actually have been updated to use them yet. It's still beta 1!

The fact that the framework is there and the fact that the options are there however, means thats how they intend it to work in the finished product

 

[Night Spring]

Well they use a new framework, so I wouldn't expect all the apps to actually have been updated to use them yet. It's still beta 1!

The fact that the framework is there and the fact that the options are there however, means thats how they intend it to work in the finished product

Well, I'm not optimistic about too many developers bothering to implement this in their apps. IMO, font size should be a system-wide setting that applies to all apps without developers having to do anything. Plus, there is the problem of system UI, such as notification center -- right now, changing the font size settings doesn't do anything to the font size there. Do they intend to have the font size settings apply to system UI, and just haven't turned it on yet?

 

[Zaid]

Well, I'm not optimistic about too many developers bothering to implement this in their apps. IMO, font size should be a system-wide setting that applies to all apps without developers having to do anything. Plus, there is the problem of system UI, such as notification center -- right now, changing the font size settings doesn't do anything to the font size there. Do they intend to have the font size settings apply to system UI, and just haven't turned it on yet?

I would imagine they do. And if you use the accessibility settings it almost definitely should. If there are parts of the os that aren't updating log a bug with apple. I find the default font fine, so haven't bothered.

I think most developers will move their UI to use iOS7 widgets rather quickly or they'll risk looking ridiculously old fashioned. When they do, they should get the text scaling for free.

 

[slffl]

Wow, I just installed it and am not liking it. I thought i was going to love it after seeing it in person. Icons I could care less about.

What I don't like is the flat, plain, boring look akin to Google and Windows current design philosophy!! Notes is now a joke. And the animations aren't as long as WP8, but still way too long for a phone UI.

 

[VulchR]

You do know that the os allows you to increase the size of the font that gets used in most of the UI right? and with accessibility mode you can increase even beyond that if you really have very poor eyesight.

You've obviously never changed the font sizes on web pages etc. I get that Apple and other companies attempt to cater for those with impairments. However, the design process appears to ignore people with such impairments (or indeed the workload of the brains of unimpaired people) and then half-assed solutions to mitigate the poor design of UI's are bolted on later. Good UI design is not about specs (retina display PPI) nor pure aesthetics, but about usability. As 'dull' as this sounds, why make the task of decoding a visual display unnecessarily difficult for anybody's nervous system?

 

[DarwinOSX]

I liked it better after I installed but now that I have been using it I really dislike it. People rationalizing fonts that are way too thin need to face facts instead of knee jerk defending the design. It's obvious that this is a major issue made worse by a smaller screen than many other phones. I don't like it on my iPad either. Thin font, mismatched nonsensical colors, smaller icons. This is terrible.

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Yeah the bigger issue is that not everyone likes change simply because of change and because it would be some cool or hip thing. A lot of people actually look for usefulness, usability, and other kinds of things with real world importance.

So being able to read a font is not real world important...got it...

 

[blasto2236]

Well, as I've been saying in other threads, for me the effect has been opposite. When I saw the keynote, I was excited to try it, but once I installed and started using iOS 7, I found one thing after another that didn't work for me. Just take the new font for example. At first glance it looks sleek and pretty, but after looking at it all day, it makes me feel edgy and tired.

A font makes you feel edgy and tired? Get a hold of yourself.

 

[Night Spring]

A font makes you feel edgy and tired? Get a hold of yourself.

It does, because it is so hard to see. And before you say it, yes, I have glasses, but my vision problem can't be totally corrected with glasses. And yes, I did turn all the font adjustment settings on in Accessibility, but they don't change the fonts where it really matters.

And I said this already in this thread -- did you even bother to read through the thread before posting?

 

[KenAFSPC]

It does, because it is so hard to see. And before you say it, yes, I have glasses, but my vision problem can't be totally corrected with glasses. And yes, I did turn all the font adjustment settings on in Accessibility, but they don't change the fonts where it really matters.

And I said this already in this thread -- did you even bother to read through the thread before posting?

No, he did not. Anyone with even the mildest of vision problems can relate to what you describe.

 

[blasto2236]

It does, because it is so hard to see. And before you say it, yes, I have glasses, but my vision problem can't be totally corrected with glasses. And yes, I did turn all the font adjustment settings on in Accessibility, but they don't change the fonts where it really matters.

And I said this already in this thread -- did you even bother to read through the thread before posting?

No, I didn't. It's fine to say that a font makes your EYES tired. You said it makes YOU edgy and tired, which is silly. Revert back to 6 and call it a day.

 

[KenAFSPC]

No, I didn't. It's fine to say that a font makes your EYES tired. You said it makes YOU edgy and tired, which is silly. Revert back to 6 and call it a day.

When you have to strain to read text, even if slightly, your eyes don't just get tired. There is physical stress on the body. This stress has been proven to cause temporary changes in brain chemistry. It can cause one to feel physically tired; it can cause one to become "edgy" (i.e., quick to lose patience or quick to anger); and it can cause headaches. All of this is well-documented, which is why doctors recommend a vision test for patients exhibiting these symptoms.

 

[Night Spring]

When you have to strain to read text, even if slightly, your eyes don't just get tired. There is physical stress on the body. This stress has been proven to cause temporary changes in brain chemistry. It can cause one to feel physically tired; it can cause one to become "edgy" (i.e., quick to lose patience or quick to anger); and it can cause headaches. All of this is well-documented, which is why doctors recommend a vision test for patients exhibiting these symptoms.

Thank you for backing me up, that's it, exactly. When my eyesight started to get bad, the first thing that happened was that I got headaches when I tried to read, especially small print like dictionaries. And you don't realize that your eyes have gone bad, you just think, "My god, I'm having all these headaches recently." Now that I know what to watch for, I know to stop reading before I get a headache, but the first symptom I get (before it develops into a full blown headache) is "feeling edgy."

And I never put iOS 7 on my main phone (iPhone 5), just on my backup 4S. And I probably will keep my iPhone 5 on iOS 6 for as long as possible, unless the font and contrast problems drastically improve.

 

[iapplelove]

Been using ios7 since beta2 on an iPad. There are many things I like and many things mainly appearances I miss about ios6

 

[Iceage]

Well, I've had iOS 7 on my phone since day 1 and on my min since yesterday. I love it and wouldn't go back to iOS 6. It looks great with a dark wallpaper.

 

[C DM]

I liked it better after I installed but now that I have been using it I really dislike it. People rationalizing fonts that are way too thin need to face facts instead of knee jerk defending the design. It's obvious that this is a major issue made worse by a smaller screen than many other phones. I don't like it on my iPad either. Thin font, mismatched nonsensical colors, smaller icons. This is terrible.

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So being able to read a font is not real world important...got it...

What? That was the whole point of that reply--things like the new "hip" thinner fonts that are not as user friendly are the ones that carry real world importance (vs. people just liking them simply because they are new and different and somehow "cool" and for no other actual practical reason).

 

[xcodeaddict]

All,

When I first saw iOS 7 on websites and video, I was disgusted and wondered aloud if Apple was circling the drain because surely Steve Jobs would never release such a thing.

Yesterday, I went ahead and installed iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 and I have to say it's really nice. Hell, even the icons are growing on me (Ive mentioned that the icons are a work in progress and will change before GM). It's just a better OS period. The look is more modern and up to date and I couldn't imagine going back to iOS 6 at this point.

Moral of the story, don't knock it until you have tried it. The damn thing rocks!

All credit and the utmost of respect to you for this!

Well folks, that's one person who's learned to shut up and give it a fair go, now 1,089,009,778 to go...