i wouldnt use adaware if i were you...creates as many problems as it solves. try spybot search and destroy
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well none you know of... but as a hear it has its own spyware involved. it also kills system resources wheras spybot doesnt. its a much better program
If it isn't pre-installed, it's not out of the boxSiliconAddict said:Neither do windows users. All they need to know is DON'T USE INTERNET IMPLODER.Spreadfirefox.org Install and you are already 80% safer then before.
earthtoandy said:
There isn't any proof that it has its own spyware (at least that I've seen). It's only speculation. Please someone, give some real proof if you've got some. Don't just say, "yea it does."
Eats system resources? I've never had a problem with that. For the last year or so, I've been automatically running it at night, but I never had a problem even when I'm using the pc at the time.
I've never used spybot. I hear good things, but I'm from the school if it ain't broke don't fix it. Adaware keeps my pc running all the time. I have no reason to switch.
earthtoandy said:
Spybot isn't without its annoyances. Have you ever had the "Spybot S&D Resident" application open while you're trying to do something like install a Windows Service Pack?
have you tried to have ANYTHING open while do a windows service pack? damn service pack killed my girlfriends computer.
Why in the world would you have ANYTHING open while installing a SP? Let alone SpybotDavidLeblond said:
grapes911 said:
I'm not sure of everything that it does, but the annoying part of it monitors the registry and complains every time a program tries to modify it. So when you are installing a service pack you have to click "Allow" until your finger goes numb.
Of course you can turn it off easily, which is good because its annoying as hell.
edesignuk said:Why in the world would you have ANYTHING open while installing a SP? Let alone Spybot
Its a resident program. Using the mac has lulled me into not killing every running process before installing a piece of software. Besides, the whole point in restarting the computer after you install is so you don't HAVE to go kill every program.
thank you. i felt like i was taking crazy pills for a secondedesignuk said:Why in the world would you have ANYTHING open while installing a SP? Let alone Spybot
edesignuk said:Why in the world would you have ANYTHING open while installing a SP? Let alone Spybot
This is a really important thing. Many people install things esp patches with out shutting everything else down. Antivirus is a big one. So many people keep norton or others open and install patches. This is a big reason why people's windows crash after updates.
grapes911 said:
So before you install a service pack, you have to open task manager and weed through all the open processes (58 on my box) trying to guess which ones aren't required by the OS to run and kill them all? I know what most of those processes do, but good luck having my mom figure all that crap out.
Anyway, as I said before the reason Windows (and every other OS) out there requires you to reboot after certain updates is so you don't have to kill every process out there. Its not like I have Word and even Spybot open when I patch Windows, I never said I did.
DavidLeblond said:So before you install a service pack, you have to open task manager and weed through all the open processes (58 on my box) trying to guess which ones aren't required by the OS to run and kill them all? I know what most of those processes do, but good luck having my mom figure all that crap out.
Anyway, as I said before the reason Windows (and every other OS) out there requires you to reboot after certain updates is so you don't have to kill every process out there. Its not like I have Word and even Spybot open when I patch Windows, I never said I did.
I wasn't accusing you of anything. I was trying to make a general statement. Sorry I quoted you. I see how it could have been misleading.
earthtoandy said:no not saying that... just dont use windows
Unfortunately sometimes you have to.
A "piece of software" and a OS service pack are VERY different things. Anyone with half a brain should know that when doing a major OS update you should have as little as possible running.DavidLeblond said:
earthtoandy said:no not saying that... just dont use windows
If only life was so simple. VPC is not always a viable solution. Why can't software developers get their heads out of their butts and make software for both Windows and OS X (and linux for too)? I guess it all comes down to money.
edesignuk said:
grapes911 is right ... the average computer user doesn't know this. And out of all the problems I have with Windows, installing updates like this isn't one of them. With the exception of Spybot bitching at me (keep in mind, this is the Spybot Resident not the whole application... there is a difference
) I've never had a problem with any of the resident programs being open while I install a service pack. Like I said before, that is why it requires a reboot... because those resident programs (including Windows) have certain files locked.All I was doing was mentioning that Spybot can be just as annoying as Ad-aware.
By the way, with all this discussion about Ad-aware and Spybot... ever since switching to FireFox neither one has found any adware (not including tracking cookies of course.)
grapes911 said:
Ditto. Never had a problem with it. HOWEVER. I have heard of people where it has broken some things but that is why you can backup the files and reg changes it plans on doing before you implement it.
I have only ever seen it break a computer(s) once, and this was at work with a certain piece of adware that if not removed properly killed your systems ability to get an IP via DHCP due to the fact the bloody thing bound itself to Winsocks 2SiliconAddict said:
DavidLeblond said:
Again ditto. I have about 6 users in our office that have to research companies and sometimes they go out to somewhat sketchy sites to gather info. Time and again I have to clean their systems even with spybots active scanning tech. A couple of times I've had to redo their computer because the ad/spyware got so bad.
I finely said screw it and installed FireFox across the board and asked them to purely use FireFox from now on with the exception of some of the in house apps based out of corp that only work with Imploder.
Since that time ZERO. Zip. NATTA. No adware. I've had people come up to me and tell me why Firefox is such a big deal and that its not that much better then IE. And time and again I tell them they are full of crap. I work with these apps. I see what does and doesn't work and IE is a festering POS that needs to be staked through the heart. Too bad corp won't give me the auth to roll it out office wide.