I have had it with Boot Camp.

Discussion in 'Windows, Linux & Others on the Mac' started by Teknik, May 16, 2013.

  1. Teknik macrumors newbie

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    So I have a 2011 Intel iMac, and the superdrive has stopped working.
    I don't have apple care, and I don't have the money to replace the drive, but I want/need bootcamp. I have tried almost every workaround I can to get this stupid thing to work. External dvd drive (nope), usb loading (nope).

    I just recently tried the plist edit trick to make a bootable USB, but you guessed it! It didn't work. Now my mac is stuck trying to boot from a usb that it apparently can't detect (No bootable device detected), and startup hotkeys won't work. I've tried Shift, alt, command, C, X, whatever the PRAM one is.. But nope. Just boots to that black screen telling me the bootable usb it created isn't there.

    Ideally I'd like to get it to detect the bootable USB, but anything that will get me back into OSX will be fine. Please help. :(
    I'm getting a PC as soon as possible so I don't have to deal with this anymore.
     
  2. MJL macrumors 6502a

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    I suppose that you have a time machine backup on an external HDD? If you plug that in it should see that instead and then you can use diskutil to maintain the drives.

    Asking the obvious: Are you using a wired keyboard? Wireless keyboards do not get recognized until after your machine is up and running.
     
  3. Teknik thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I do not have a time machine backup and I'm using a wired keyboard. Nothing I try is working and apparently out of the millions of apple owners I'm the only one with this problem.
     
  4. MJL, May 17, 2013
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    MJL macrumors 6502a

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    did you try unplugging it from the wall for half a minute? It will reset some volatile stuff in the startup memory. I've had strange problems too but am using a Mac mini so there is a limit to what I can suggest.

    ps you can even use a time machine backup from another machine....I've successfully booted on another one than that the backup was made on.

    PS where are you located and/or how did you pay for the machine? Some people do not realize that Apple has to give more warranty in some countries by law . Also some credit card companies give a year extra warranty on equipment bought through them.

    Is it just out of warranty? Here in new Zealand someone successfully argued that a computer with a premium price tag should last longer than only a few years (if I remember correctly it broke down after AppleCare had run out and Apple refused to repair saying it was too old. Since a DVD player is expected to work for five years and his computer had a DVD player in it he argued it should be expected to have a minimum life expectancy of five years and his was just over three years... Apple was ordered to provide....)

    selling extra warranty is the biggest money making rip-off that there is.
     
  5. Teknik thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I forcefully unplugged it and left it for more than an hour, plugged it back in and I'm still having the same issues.

    Lucky me the nearest apple store is more than 2 hours away, but I have a very convenient trash can right outside my house.
     
  6. MJL, May 17, 2013
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    MJL macrumors 6502a

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    some people will still give money for a faulty mac on eBay...

    but I commiserate with your plight - I've myself been very close to doing the same. Unfortunately the Mac mini is the only small form factor in our small country of 4 million people that I can get locally serviced. Otherwise I would have had an ASrock Vision HTPC.

    I've seen the same in an old hobby of mine - HAM radio. The Japanese took over with fancy outside and marginal inners but they were selling like hotcakes over the industrial looking and industrial robust gear. People buying primarily on looks or price without taking into account the total cost per year of owning the stuff.
     
  7. Teknik, May 17, 2013
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    Teknik thread starter macrumors newbie

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    I couldn't in good conscience cause someone to pay money for this thing. I need my computer anyways, I really need to get it working.
     
  8. MJL macrumors 6502a

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    If you specify what is wrong then they may want it for parts to repair another damaged machine - e.g. someone may have cracked the screen or dropped it and have the stand broken.
     
  9. Teknik thread starter macrumors newbie

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    That would leave me without my computer though.. I don't think I could get enough money to build a new PC.
     
  10. MJL macrumors 6502a

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    You can always go to an certified Apple repair facility and ask for a diagnosis of what a repair would cost. I expect that the diagnosis would cost some money, perhaps the equivalent of an hour's labor charge but then you know what the issue is - it may be that a logic board needs to be replaced. (I had one going bad on me when I did a re-install of windows... It was replaced under warranty...) If instead it is a simple software issue then you may find that the repair is costing nothing because it may have been included in the diagnosis. If on the other hand it is the logic board then you might as well ditch the machine since that might costs as much as a new one.

    This is why I like separate components like the Mac mini - it is silly to replace a keyboard, mouse and screen because there is an issue with the computer itself. Purchases can be staggered but screens can be obtained from other vendors at a far lower price and normally they'll outlast the computer itself by a wide margin.
     
  11. chrfr macrumors 603

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    Are you using a non-Apple keyboard with this? If you are, see if you can find an Apple one to try the startup keys. If none of the startup keys seem to be working, you may be mistiming your keypresses. Turn on the computer and then immediately press the option/alt key and keep holding it. Unplug any other USB devices when you do this, as a test.

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    The keyboards in the Mini and iMac are no more or less separate in either computer, but I do agree with you and prefer the Mini over the iMac simply because of the separation.
     

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