So I'm on a baseball thread, and some guy asks about Windows 7 versus Mac. This starts a debate, to which I reply: "Mac versus PC..kind of like Yankees versus Red Sox (yeah, lets rent some cahs). Viruses in Mac? Unlikely, since everything is going tablet, and please explain how the iOS is vulnerable. It has 80% market share and wheres the malware? Right, its on open source Android. Cost? Add in software for the PC (the Mac gets a lot for free upfront) and the cost differential is not that great. A Macbook Air (which does 99% of what anybody would want, is light at 2.3 lbs) is about $800-900. The free software you get (iLife, etc) is worth about $200-300. Win7 is perfectly fine. In fact, I run it on the Mac in BootCamp (yes, you can run both on a Mac, but need some fair sophistication to turn a PC into a Hackintosh). But I would never go back at this point. Plus, an iPad also does most of what I want anyway." To which a reply was given: "please explain how the iOS is vulnerable Something like 30% of all Apple store apps are infected with usage tracking software and spyware. They just call it a feature in the Apple-world. Was it only 2 weeks ago they found unencrypted files with location data in iOS? This is the lax oversight Im talking about with due to inexperience. Everything going tablet is another ridiculous falsehood being perpetuated by Apple and its community of sheep. Its hilarious to me that the iPad is supposed to eliminate the need for a computer yet the first thing you have to do when you take it out of the box? Plug it into a computer. Most people that champion Mac over PC use their computer as a web browser and media center/photo album, and nothing more. Theres nothing wrong with that, but dont assume that you even understand the limits and capabilities of the Mac OS let alone Windows. Thats why things like a Macbook Air and netbooks are popular, they gives small feature sets that cant get cluttered because they arent powerful enough to be. Buying a Macbook Air for $900 is paying for every bit of that free $250 in software. The hardware is barely worth $300, its a netbook with an Apple on it." Thought I'd post this for some comments. If this is the state of computer knowledge out there (and this guy thought he was smart), we are truly in sad shape.