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I haven't used Spaces since it came out...

TheSpaz

TheSpaz

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...because of horrible horizontal tearing when you activate it. I wish they'd fix that.
 
WTF are you talking about? This is random and pointless.
I just started using it and I don't get what you mean about "horizontal tearing". Spaces has been brilliant for those of us who have to multitask on a day to day basis.
 
I've heard the phrase "horizontal tearing" before, but I'm not sure I know what you mean.

I use Spaces religiously, so if you could tell me what you're experiencing, I'll see if I go through the same thing.

What's the GPU in your Mac Pro? It could be a product of that.
 
Tallest Skil said:
I've heard the phrase "horizontal tearing" before, but I'm not sure I know what you mean.

I use Spaces religiously, so if you could tell me what you're experiencing, I'll see if I go through the same thing.

What's the GPU in your Mac Pro? It could be a product of that.
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Google horizontal tearing.

It happens on both my 8800GT and my 7300 and every Mac I've tried it on so far. I can't stand tearing.
 
Do You mean the image like jumps, rather than being smooth? It Appears smooth, but actually jumps in about 5 stages.

tbh, real nitpick, as i only just noticed, and its not going to stop me using Spaces.
 
MattZani said:
Do You mean the image like jumps, rather than being smooth? It Appears smooth, but actually jumps in about 5 stages.

tbh, real nitpick, as i only just noticed, and its not going to stop me using Spaces.
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I just never liked horizontal tearing in my games or graphical animations. It reminds me of Windows XP and I don't like it. Therefore, if Spaces tears, then I will not use it... Simple as that.

This is what tearing looks like:
http://www.richleader.com/images/Pulse/bargainbin/bargain_bin_review/tearing.jpg

Notice how the picture is cut in half. It happens when the graphics framerate is not in sync with the refresh rate of the screen. Apple usually avoids this by forcing the graphics to move as fast as the screen refreshes so that you never see horizontal tearing. It looks like they either forgot about it in Spaces or they sacrificed tearing for higher framerates.
 
Don't all LCD screens do that? the refresh rate is lower than CRT monitors so you get screen tearing.

It doesn't matter if you use XP or Leopard.
 
Hey at least you have it. I'm stuck in the stone ages with core duo, tiger, maxed at 2gb ram etc.
 
So one little detail is missed, that somehow makes the entire feature worthless? What happens if you get a small chip or scratch on your Mac Pro? What about your cellphone? Nothing is perfect, and everything has little flaws.

I haven't even gotten this on my *cheap* and *very bad* glossy display of my MacBook nor my 24" TN panel Samsung. So I think it's your computer. My integrated graphics card running a 13.3" and a 24" at native resolutions somehow doesn't suffer from this *flaw*.
 
Wait, does the screen stay that way or is it just for a second during the transition?

If its the latter, IMO, thats a terrible reason for not using a great tool. BUUUUT, it would be nice if they fixed the issue, possibly SL?:D
 
I have never experienced this on my white MB or my white 17" 2.0Ghz Intel iMac, neither of them use particularly good GPUs so I really don't know why it would happen with better GPUs, anyone know?
 
If you don't have a need for Spaces, then don't use it. It's about functionality, not necessarily the transition appearance. Spaces wasn't designed (at least I don't think it was) to be jumping about from space to space constantly like hopscotch. It simply provides a quick transition from task to task.

FWIW, I've never noticed what you are describing, and I use Spaces constantly everyday.:)
 
I probably couldn't use a Mac without Spaces. This is not a Spaces issue it's a graphics card issue anyway.
 
redwarrior said:
If you don't have a need for Spaces, then don't use it. It's about functionality, not necessarily the transition appearance. Spaces wasn't designed (at least I don't think it was) to be jumping about from space to space constantly like hopscotch. It simply provides a quick transition from task to task.

FWIW, I've never noticed what you are describing, and I use Spaces constantly everyday.:)
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detz said:
I probably couldn't use a Mac without Spaces. This is not a Spaces issue it's a graphics card issue anyway.
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Yup, I never noticed it, except when my CPU was at full load. but the Mac Pro has X2 the number of cores I have, so it shouldn't be much of a problem.

First thing I miss when using a Windows computer, is Spaces.
 
Is there anyway to fix spaces from "grouping" application windows from regrouping.

I'll be using word, and have several docs open, and i'll split some from say one term onto one space, and others from another term onto another space. And then I click and they all fly into one space.. what the hell?

Also, if I open a doc from online, and don't save it, If I move it into another space, it goes nuts, and does the horizontal tearing thing and eventually jams.

Yes, these are PC related app's but seriously? At the end of the day I'm running a mac, am I not?
 
The MS Office apps don't work well with Spaces. MS blames Apple. Apple blames MS.

I don't notice tearing with Spaces on my first gen Intel iMac.
 
It's probably a problem with the graphics drivers for the cards I'm using. I also used get tearing in Safari (until I fixed it by using the beamsync command in the terminal).

Also, as I stated earlier, Apple's OS is perfect in regards to tearing and video artifacts except for spaces (which I can't seem to fix by using beamsync), so it is NOT just like Windows XP.

It's not a big deal. Like others have said... since I don't like seeing the tearing, I choose to live without spaces... no big deal. Maybe once Apple fixes this bug, I'll give it a shot.

If anyone's wondering, this is how you force beam sync on your Mac if you are experiencing tearing:

Enter the following in the Terminal and restart:

Code: 
sudo defaults write /Library/Preferences/com.apple.windowserver Compositor -dict deferredUpdates 2
 
TheSpaz said:
...because of horrible horizontal tearing when you activate it. I wish they'd fix that.
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congrats on you. i have a friend that don't use spaces too. is so lamme watching it out doing things on the mac... like a prehistoric man doing the fire with stones
 
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