Awful quality pics - stupid Nokia (sorry!). I just bought my second ATI, 800Mhz eMac... for £85 which includes 1Gb SDRAM & 10.3. So to summarise, for £170, I have TWO 2003 ATI eMac machines, side by side, running Leopard. I clocked the 7445 chip from 800Mhz to 1.33Ghz (*VERY* stable and safe to do by the way - http://www.lbodnar.dsl.pipex.com/eMac/eMac-upgrade.html) Then, simply stripped down the machines, and install a 250Gb IDE drive & DVD-RW drive (EXACT type is: a Samsung "TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S222A") in the first eMac, and a 160Gb IDE drive in the other one. These machines run many hours of each day, with NO problems running 10.5.6 whatsoever. Cheaper than a comparable secondhand *cringes* PeeCee, and way more cool, capable, beautiful to use and own, and rugged. Got to LOVE Macs - I just can't bear to NOT use them. Thanks Apple for making such an incredible line of products, and thanks Microsoft for making such crap that pushed me away from you, and let me discover the superior Apple life. Also, I'd like to thank Linux for being SO incredibly inconsistent and fiddly to setup; I feel that in my Macintoshes, I have found THE perfect balance I need. PeeCee vendors will always aspire to Apple; as Guy Kawasaki says in the film "Welcome to Macintosh" - the PeeCee vendors just don't know WHICH bit to steal! Apple all the way - innovation, obsessive attention to detail with their craft, and the faultless way in which they remove unnecessary and cluttered items from their designs - who ELSE has "HIG" (Human Interface Guidelines) to ensure software is made to look beautiful?!. Everyone copies Apple, either blatently or subversively. Psystar and others even try to cheapen the Mac - wanna know why? they don't 'get it' like a REAL loyal Mac user would. They deserve all they get from Apple's lawyers - Apple forever!! [UPDATE] 13/02/2009 I no longer have the two eMacs from the above article. However, I purchased a 1.42Ghz eMac last week, and fitted a 160Gb WD drive to it. I am also about to upgrade the ram tonight, to 2Gb DDR, and also install a Samsung "SH-S222A" DVD±RW drive (these are fantastic drives!). I must say that the 1.42Ghz (2005, USB 2.0) model does seem quite a bit snappier - liking it!.